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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: We are coming back to that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Quinn accepts that, as the Comptroller and Auditor General said, an analysis of costs and the benefits associated with different potential courses of action is key in decision making. However, he disagrees with the finding of the Comptroller and Auditor General that, in the case of the Gulfstream jet, the Department did not formally appraise the economic case for increased maintenance...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: The Comptroller and Auditor General said the Department had failed to do this in 2013, as well as in 2014. It was not under pressure in 2013.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: The Comptroller and Auditor General has said the Department did not carry out a formal analysis of the costs and benefits in 2013 either.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I do not find that reply helpful. I am faced with what the Comptroller and Auditor General is saying. I accept, at face value, the argument that the Department was in a corner in 2014 but that did not apply in 2013 and the Comptroller and Auditor General made the same finding for that year. I do not find Mr. Quinn's answer satisfactory. On personal injuries, Mr. Quinn gave a sum for...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Perhaps Mr. Quinn might come back to me with the figures.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: There are claims by employees, to which Mr. Quinn referred, and then there are claims by members of the public, presumably as a result of accidents.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Did that involve military personnel and vehicles? Is that what is being set out there?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Regarding Army involvement in Shannon Airport, where can I discover the cost to the taxpayer of protecting aircraft in Shannon Airport? What aircraft are involved? What are the criteria?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Why is that not there? That is obviously backing up a civil power. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: It comes under that heading. Therefore it should set out what it costs the taxpayer to protect and the criteria for when the Army is sent in.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: What period of time does that cover?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Is that the total cost for the Army's involvement at Shannon Airport?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: It includes security duty payments, fuel-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: What criteria are used when deploying them there? Which aircraft does the Army protect?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: The Garda Síochána will ring the Army and ask it to send personnel the following day.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Does the Garda outline why?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: It does not. Therefore it simply rings up and says, "We require your assistance tomorrow", and the Army is sent down, although not by Mr. Quinn.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Is Mr. Quinn familiar with the criteria used by the Army for deploying personnel?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 – Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Department of Defence
Chapter 8 – Disposal of the Government Jet
(26 Jan 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I would like to go into it further detail but I am stuck for time. I wish to ask about a few other things. I believe our contribution to the EU is in excess of €1 million.

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