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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: Yes but I am also trying to understand where they came from. While they are all part of the operational review-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: Yes. What came from the external independent review team? Were some from HIQA or were some used from Oberstown's own procedures?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: All of them?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: Not the external reviewers, but the internal reviewers the Minister appointed in March 2017.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: That is Barry Goldson and the other person. They were all from them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: All right. That all came from their report. That is very helpful. It gives me a complete understanding as to what they had highlighted within it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: I still go back to recommendation No. 4 on having no females, whereas we have allocated six places for females at Oberstown detention centre. What are we doing to address that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: What are we doing in relation to that? Are we addressing it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: What does the recommendation mean by saying we should no longer have girls there?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: The Minister referred to the HIQA report in her opening statement. I have read the report in great detail and have placed pages and pages of my own post-its on it. Something I found glaring was the fact that the percentage of staff with up-to-date training declined between the 2017 inspection and the 2018 inspection. The dip related to child protection and safeguarding. At the time of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: With the height of respect, we are talking about young people and child protection and safeguarding. Is that not something one would want to have at 100%?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: That is why I looked at the HIQA report. It is because HIQA had sight of that whereas I do not. I have to use that as my bible at the moment to make a fair assessment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: I will be brief. I will return to the questions I asked on the previous occasion. Were any of the recommendations of Goldson and Hardwick, the authors of the report, not included in the 95 recommendations? When I spoke at our previous meeting, I stated that the response of the board of management to the recommendations of the overall operational review 2017 was not just one review but was...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: I want to put it in context. When I look at recommendation 4, for example, which is to do with girls, I want to know who put that in the body of the report and in what context the recommendation was made. Is the facility not good enough? I am trying to understand it from a female point of view. Is that okay?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: That would be appreciated.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: Absolutely.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: That is it exactly. It is the context.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: Will I be able to get an answer to that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: That is from where I am coming. My line of questioning regarding the 95 recommendations relates to what fed what.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Anne Rabbitte: Ultimately, we are talking about the report but a young man has been sentenced over this-----

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