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Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: I thank the Chair and committee for the opportunity to present details of the Supplementary Estimate for the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications. I am seeking the approval of the committee for the Supplementary Estimate allocating a total of €1.362 billion to provide the necessary additional funding of €1.212 billion to subhead B11, electricity credit, and...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: This payment is part of a five-year programme that will see significant ramping up, not just this first payment, but further larger payments, so that they can meet the requirements of the Act. I have been travelling around the country as best as I can talking to different local authorities to encourage them in that work and listening to what they have to say on the resources they need. This...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: As I said, this is a five-year programme. The figure is due to be the same next year but then will ramp up. Our role is very much in the governance of it and theirs is in the implementation. As I said, it is due to scale up. If it is not sufficient, we will continue to review and address that.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: The amount of money raised from the measures that we have agreed at European Council, such as the inframarginal pricing and the solidarity contribution of fossil fuels, is hard to estimate exactly because it depends on so many different variables – the price of gas and, as a consequence, wholesale electricity prices. The good news is that while they are still historically incredibly...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: Deputy Bruton's third question was about what we learned from the auction. The main reasons were a failure for the supply company to deliver the equipment and the planning system being tight. The main lesson that we will have to learn, which the Attorney General is applying, is a revision of the 2000 Act. It is not fit for purpose. It does not service the people. It is too complicated...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: I confirm that we will make sure that Traveller families will get the cash payments that 99.5% or 99.6% of households got in the first tranche. We know that it works. Where there were anomalies or communities were left out, such as certain families within the Traveller community, we will work with the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage and with local authorities to make...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: This is a new subhead, started only this year in support of research and environmental products. The expenditure was funded previously under subhead A3. Savings were identified because expenditure this year is less than projected. Sometimes when there is a new initiative, the universities or industry and market people take time to ramp up their ability to spend the funds. There was no...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: I understand that Business Postarticle referred to those projects that have already been approved in-----

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: -----those T-4 auction schemes. These would involve solar farms, battery storage centres or backup fossil fuel generators. Those bids would have been made almost a year ago. I cannot remember the exact date. There has been a significant increase in inflation in the interim, particularly affecting the cost of energy infrastructure. Therefore, there is a specific issue in this regard that...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: Two sites. I am reluctant to name them until we get the contracts.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: There are roughly two.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: Roughly that and roughly 24 engines. These are effectively jet engines, which have to have a transformer and fuel supply attached.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: They can switch to hydrogen and are likely to use distillate rather than gas, as I understand it. They are dual-fuel or multi-fuel.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: It has to be, and that is why we have such tight timelines. If we do not start in the coming weeks, we will not be able to deliver in the autumn of next year, which is when we need to deliver.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: The CRU has the chief responsibility but we work closely with it, as does EirGrid. We will continue to work with them on whatever refinements we need to make to ensure the projects are delivered. It will be a matter for the CRU.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: There is always a question mark. Deputy Bruton asked earlier whether one can be absolutely certain that projects cleared through an auction process will in the end be delivered. One cannot be. There can be a variety of measures. The emergency purchase and emergency procurement on their own will not be sufficient; we need to see the auctions deliver, along with further auctions to come,...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: It is urgent. In talking to various industry providers, one always asks about the position on the various projects and schemes. There has been a significant inflationary element, particularly concerning the price of steel, which would affect solar farms. Strangely, solar farms have a significant amount of steel. There has also been supply disruption because of the war in Ukraine. I am...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: Yes, in Tarbet, TB3 is at half capacity and TB4 is apparently not operational. There has been a significant reduction following the fire. One has to remember that Tarbert is a very old facility. It dates back to the 1960s, I believe. Plants such as Tarbert and Moneypoint, particularly in a market with a very significant renewables element, are not easily ramped up and down. Therefore,...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: I understand that it is only future credits but I will have to check the final details for the Deputy.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022 (Supplementary)
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
(18 Oct 2022)

Eamon Ryan: I will.

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