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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Deputy Neville has five minutes and as I said earlier, I will stop people at five minutes because we are restrained on time.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: This meeting is to suspend at 8.15 p.m. That is what was agreed. There are five more members to speak. With the agreement of the members that are left, if we cut the time everyone will get in and if we do not the meeting will suspend at 8.15 p.m. and members will not get in. Will the agreement of the five that are left be that we will go to just three minutes? Will we all agree to that...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: With respect, Deputy, the time is up. I call on Deputy Pearse Doherty.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Sorry, Deputy Doherty, we have only limited time. We have done it to accommodate everyone. I am not changing it for him. I call on Deputy Cathal Crowe.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: I have a question. In Limerick we had a big meeting at the start of this week in the Wyeth Nutritionals factory. We met major stakeholders and businesses from around County Limerick. Some of them are international companies that have bases here. Their biggest problem was, with their sister companies in other European countries, that the cost of doing business here is 10% or 15% more than...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: We have been talking about overruns in different areas. Since I became a TD, I have been asking in the Dáil for design and build. That means that when there is a design-build project, as happens in other European countries, we can develop infrastructure, hospitals, etc. If there is a design-build model, then the budget is the budget. There can be no overrun. Can we adopt that on...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: I thank the Ministers and their officials for attending and thank you for staying on longer with us. I now adjourn the meeting.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: I am frustrated with it myself.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Due to the voting system that went on tonight, and everyone taking a double vote on everything, it all took time. We had this set down on time. We had adequate time, but if the time is taken somewhere else, they are taking it back, and we needed to be in this committee. We were here since half past six, but other things within the Dáil sequence stopped it. In fairness, I asked the...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Because of the other commitments that the Ministers have. We have eaten into their time, which gives them a ten-minute window now to get to their next meeting. If we take extra time at this, their other commitments are actually pushed out. They have given us an extra half an hour more than what we first agreed on.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Yes.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: To me, three minutes is more than 90 seconds so maybe someone needs to do their maths.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: If you managed other times in other places better we might be able to get longer times ourselves and we want it in this committee. We have moved everything around. As you say, you are substituting for somebody else. Maybe you could sit in on more of our meetings and note how much time is allocated to different items of business. We gave four hours yesterday talking to other people in this...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: I understand that.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: When I did it in the format of this room, your own party actually got 11 minutes compared with other people who actually got a lot less. I have tried to be very fair to all parties, but when you got your minutes, we also facilitated your other two colleagues that had to get in to speak. I understand the frustration, but every day is a learning day, and we will look into having extra time on...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Respect the Chair, please.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Excuse me, respect the Chair.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: You can finish, but if your comments are in any way defamatory, I will pull them and adjourn this meeting now.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: We have wasted a lot of time talking about something now where we could have been more constructive.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: I know that.

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