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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: We often say that if we ran our businesses the way a Department runs its business, we would not be in business. We need a model for accountability that will bring in design and delivery, give us more bang for our buck and make sure projects are delivered on time. Then we may not have to increase taxes and could instead curtail what we have and spend it properly.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: On the number of people living at home, I have experienced it myself. I have four sons, two partners and two grandchildren living with me. I am a building contractor. Each time they try to get on the ladder they are finding it next to impossible to get on the ladder. Every time they are saving and trying to meet the criteria from the banking system, they save hard for 12 months and it is...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Basically, we have the squeezed middle of people who have worked all their lives. The next generation might find life a little easier because of what happens. People might see a benefit go to their children or grandchildren down the line.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: I thank Dr. McDonnell for that contribution. It concludes this session. I thank both of the witnesses for coming and I look forward to bringing them back again in the not too distant future. The interaction today was positive and informative. I thank them for their time. We will now suspend for a few minutes while the witnesses for the next public session join us.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: I ask everyone to turn off all mobile phones and devices or to put them on silent. Before we begin, I wish to explain some limitations to parliamentary privilege and the practice of the House as regards references witnesses may make to other persons in their evidence. Witnesses are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the presentation they make to the committee. This means that...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: I thank Deputy Nash. I call Deputy Neville.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: From my own perspective, after meeting with IBEC yesterday, and we met a lot of companies from around the country, some of which had an international presence as well, their concerns were that, in their trade with the likes of the US and other countries, they were going to price themselves out of the market with the way the structure is set up here with energy costs, water costs, PRSI costs...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Looking at our budgets at present from private delivery versus Government delivery of projects and the overruns, and I have asked this in the other two committee meetings, I am a business person myself, so it is design and delivery. You design it, you deliver it, you get an extra percentage because you take the risk but you are getting value for your buck. It is delivered on time and, if...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: And also for the procurement for us contractors to get on that. We are saying that we have a shortage of large contractors that can do this, but the criteria around getting contractors to do even the smaller projects involve them having to show that they have already taken down €2 million or €3 million worth of projects already. They may have done it for the private sector,...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: It was said earlier that when the recession hit in 2008, other countries continued to develop infrastructure but we pulled back in various sectors, whereas we should have continued to provide infrastructure. Hindsight is a great thing. We are where we are now and we are moving forward. Reports are coming from the likes of Uisce Éireann that many towns and villages around Ireland...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: The former Minister of State is present as well. We could have a small pilot project to see if we could do it. We could look at it and say, "Lads, we can actually fix this." If we prove we are right and it is a success, then we could fix a lot more. I am sure it would work around the country for the smaller towns and villages that are currently lacking in investment and businesses.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: The problem-----

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget Engagement (Resumed) (23 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: I agree 100% with the Deputy. The problem is that when the sewage is treated, they are using the same water to go back into the system for people to drink. Perhaps that answers his question. It is a circular economy. I want to work with people, including him and others, to make sure that we can deliver. I urge him to provide a pilot project to see if we can get some bit of a difference....

Child Poverty and Homelessness: Motion [Private Members] (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: I am going to give the Minister the answer today to solving a lot of the problems. I am in business all my life, so I treat politics like business - delivery on budget and on time. We are talking today about homelessness and child poverty. The overspend on the children's hospital is €853 million. I am the Chairperson of the Committee on Budgetary Oversight. We will have the...

Child Poverty and Homelessness: Motion [Private Members] (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Value for money.

Child Poverty and Homelessness: Motion [Private Members] (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Read your history, Minister.

Child Poverty and Homelessness: Motion [Private Members] (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: What about the overspend, Minister?

Child Poverty and Homelessness: Motion [Private Members] (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: It is a waste of money.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: I ask everyone to turn off their mobile phones and devices or put them on silent. Before we begin, I wish to explain some limitations to parliamentary privilege and the practice of the House with regard to references that may be made to other persons in the witnesses' evidence. Witnesses are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the presentations they make to the committee. This...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Pre-Budget 2026 Engagement (Resumed) (24 Sep 2025)

Richard O'Donoghue: Before I suspend the committee for a vote in the Dáil, I welcome Deputy Joe Neville's parents and family members who are here today.

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