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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Business of Joint Committee (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I remind members to switch off their mobile phones as they interfere with the recording equipment. We will go into private session to deal with housekeeping matters.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: The purpose of today's meeting is to continue a series of engagements on the matter of online harassment and harmful communications. We are joined this morning by Dr. Mary Aiken, cyberpsychologist and honorary professor at the University of East London; Mr. Ronan Lupton, barrister-at-law; and Dr. T.J. McIntyre, chairman of Digital Rights Ireland, who is no stranger to the committee. They...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I thank Mr. Lupton. I now call our final panellist, Dr. McIntyre.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I thank Dr. McIntyre. I have noted some very direct requests from colleagues and others that were not quite so certain. I have on my list Deputy O'Callaghan who will be followed by Deputies Martin Kenny and Jack Chambers and Senator Conway. Senator Ó Donnghaile is still making up his mind. I will add him to the list when he is ready.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I had a sneaking suspicion that after last week, wihen we had representatives of Facebook, Twitter and Google before us, the level of interest would not ratchet up to the same extent this week. The Visitors Gallery was full last week. These are hugely important and very interesting submissions and I record our appreciation of all the delegates for coming before us.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Before Deputy O'Callaghan leaves, perhaps he will be able to rejoin us for a photograph with our guests at the end of the meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: That is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: That you for that. Senator Niall Ó Donnghaile is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: The panellists will respond in any event for the benefit of the committee. Who would like to take the question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: That is okay. I thank the Senator for his questions and the panel for the responses. I have a couple of points to wrap up this discussion. Thinking back on what happened at the previous two meetings, last week we were treated to Twitter and Facebook rules and community standards. A number of us instanced cases to which we had been personally exposed and there was an acknowledgement...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Before I move on to Mr. Lupton and Dr. McIntyre, I wish to ask a straight question. Does Dr. Aiken think we can achieve our objective without addressing either existing legislation or introducing new legislation? I take it from her answer that she thinks we can.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Okay. I just wanted to clarify that for the record.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: It is qualifying it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Before I go to Dr. McIntyre, it is almost a one-all draw. He will have the opportunity to decide. We did not embark on this to end up not making an impact. I assure everyone that, although not all of the committee members are able to be present due to other competing pulls on their responsibilities in these Houses, it is important work for us.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Many of us, in talking to each other, are personally knowledgeable of or exposed to people who have been grievously harmed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I thank Dr. McIntyre. I was reminded when listening to his reply of something Dr. Aiken said in her opening address in terms of the harm done, namely, that the impact was not virtual. She made the point very well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Online Harassment and Harmful Communications: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: The harm done is real harm to real people. That is the drive behind our address of this issue.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (17 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Nobody suggested that.

Ceisteanna ar Reachtaíocht a Gealladh - Questions on Promised Legislation (17 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: It is shameful that we find ourselves having to rise on this issue once again here in this Chamber. After a concerted effort by a collective of different voices across this House, we reached a point where approval was announced, yet here today, several months later, we are asking once again in the context of nothing having been done in terms of these families and those children's access to...

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: National Drugs Strategy Budget (22 Oct 2019)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I wish to highlight the community sector's experience of the past two years of the new national drugs strategy, Reducing Harm, Supporting Recovery - A health-led response to drug and alcohol use in Ireland 2017-2025. Key policy decisions are not being brought for discussion and agreement to the national oversight committee or the standing sub-committee, as was supposed to happen, and are...

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