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- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: That is okay.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: I am trying to establish that there were absolutely no preconditions of any nature, apart from the ones that Mr. Menton has cited, which are quite technical. There are no preconditions. So, essentially the St. Vincent's Healthcare Group is the sole owner of the land to do with the land what it pleases.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Absolutely no preconditions.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: The group could dispose of the land and make decisions around the land, and it is in the gift of the board to make a decision, if it so wanted, to gift the land to the State, if that is what they wanted to do. There is no legal reason that cannot be done. There is no block from the Sisters of Charity and there are no preconditions.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: As Mr. Menton will understand, it is a very clear question. It is an issue that many people have raised. I will go through in a few moments this arrangement that we have landed on. Mr. Menton has spoken about the impossibility of managing what I assume he means to be a HSE hospital on the grounds of Elm Park where there is a private hospital and a voluntary hospital. I am not sure that...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: That does not prevent it from doing so.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Is this not part of the problem here? I am looking at a report from the Comptroller and Auditor General, which I believe is from 2010-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: It looked at 16 voluntary hospitals and I will read the conclusions: Sixteen voluntary hospitals and a number of other health services providers are effectively integrated into the public healthcare system. However, these entities function as arms-length bodies with their own legal status and with capacity to transact business in accordance with their own constitutional arrangements....
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: A few moments ago Mr. O'Raghallaigh spoke about one of the reasons, or one of the impediments, that is now being put up, which is the first time I have heard this. Up to now we have been told by St. Vincent's Healthcare Group that the reason there is a reluctance on the group's part to transfer the land to the State is because of the need for the integrated campus.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: That is the reason we have been given. It was not about assets. It was not about any of those issues. It was not me that introduced this, with respect, it was Mr. O'Raghallaigh. The Comptroller and Auditor General's report back in 2010 cited concerns.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Do we want to be here in five or ten years' time with a Comptroller and Auditor General report that raises more concerns if the answer is "No"?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: I will make one final observation if I can. I thank the group for coming in. I said that I would do this. This new company, the national maternity hospital DAC, is to be established that will have directors, we are told, from three different sources. There will be three from the existing maternity hospital, three from St. Vincent's Hospital, and three public interest directors. That is a...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: That is what I have just said. The St. Vincent's Healthcare Group will be the landlord-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: -----and will lease the land to the HSE. Is it correct to say that there will also be a licence agreement in place?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Then the St. Vincent's Healthcare Group, which is the landlord, is a subsidiary of St. Vincent's Holdings.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: And St. Vincent's Holdings has its own board-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: -----and its own directors and own constitution, as does the St. Vincent's Healthcare Group, as does this new hospital.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Mr. Menton spoke of an impossible situation in terms of having a public hospital with another public hospital and a private hospital on the same campus. Mr. Menton said that it is difficult and impossible. It is hard to relate those when we consider the convoluted, complex structure we are being asked to approve, with respect.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: I have made my point and I would like the witnesses to reply.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: I will not be back so could I ask one quick question?