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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It will be tight. Whether everyone gets in on the second round depends on how quick members are.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It did them more harm than good.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy has-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: As we said earlier, Mr. Fraser has to be out of here at noon. It is now 11.40 a.m. I will divide the time equally between us. I will be abrupt and stop members mid-sentence. Members indicated earlier in the following sequence: Deputies Catherine Murphy, Marc MacSharry, David Cullinane and Catherine Connolly. There are slots of four to five minutes, and I have to be mercenary about the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will start with five-minute slots in case a member comes in.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have to move on to Deputy MacSharry. He has five minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy said he had two questions, and I gave him the-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Fine.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. Fraser send the committee a note on that as this issue frequently arises at our meetings.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: For the record, someone could have an unconscious bias for or against public transport, for example. It is not only about people.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We should stop this discussion now.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. Fraser have a quick comment to make?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: At this stage we have given this item three hours. I thank Mr. Fraser and his officials from the Department of the Taoiseach, as well as the official from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, for attending. There are some items of information to be forwarded to the committee's secretariat. I thank the Comptroller and Auditor General and his staff.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The next item on the agenda is the minutes of the meeting of 26 April. Are they agreed to? Agreed. Having had a cursory look at them, I have one observation to make. We had much correspondence to deal with last week and met people about the Probation Service and the building. There were many unanswered questions and we had to issue requests for 27 items of information as a result....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I do not know. I hope we will have a private session before we finish for the break.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Totally. I do not know. We will clarify this in private session.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I just want to tease out the topic. Because I am not familiar with the details, we will do it in private session. We will clarify this shortly. We will move on.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is guaranteed that we will follow that up if we have not had that. We will come back to the Deputy directly. I shall now turn to matters arising from the minutes and further correspondence received. Next is No. 1251 from the Department of the Taoiseach, dated 26 April 2018, providing briefing for today’s meeting that was held earlier. Nos. 1260 and 1264, from Ms Dee Forbes,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is my view that when they appeared before the committee previously, we had asked for the post-project reviews to be carried out, which were never done. A circular went out immediately, within days, to Departments to do that. Realistically it will take a number of months for them to do that. I said that the committee would hold over on our views on PPPs until we get these documents....

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