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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: I appreciate the officials appearing here today. I hope to cover three areas. The issue of the accountability of public representatives has been there for some time, particularly in respect of our pay. Increasingly the public is demanding that same level of accountability particularly for senior civil and public servants. There has been some correspondence between us and the Department...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: Would that information provide clarification on whether a reduction was made?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: There is a similar structure for Members of the Houses and it is not possible to get information because it involves individual salary details. I want to broaden this beyond one individual. A person is essentially using public money to court public opinion and there is no accountability as to whether that public money was or was not used. It is a significant issue. Politicians and public...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: I strongly feel that if people state they are gifting an amount of money to the State, the State should be able to state whether it received that money. I imagine this would be the case for any individual, whether an employee of ours or not. If people publicly state they are gifting money to the State, the State should be in a position to confirm whether it received the money. This is a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: I do not believe it. I am making it broader than the individual. I refer to Members of the Houses who often purport to do the same. We cannot have a situation where public servants purport to gift money to the State with no public accountability structure for it. They are not individuals who have no accountability structure. They are public servants and in their public role they suggest...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: Is Mr. Moloney saying that if, in the morning, the Taoiseach said he would forgo all of his salary, we would have no accountability structure to state whether he did so?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: It is a huge risk to standards in public office in Ireland when people can suggest they gift money and the State cannot confirm it. It is not an individual matter or a pay matter. It is a matter that impacts standards in public office. What will happen is that we will have a race to the bottom and only people with independent wealth will be able to engage in public service. It is a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: Given the concerns I have raised, which are reasonable, I suggest that a policy on this matter be drawn up. It should not fall to an individual case. That is not fair on the individual or the Department. There should be a policy on how public servants gift money to the State and an accountability structure for it. I would be surprised if the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform did...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: I appreciate that. I have spent more time on this than perhaps I expected to. Vote 15 has the very exciting title "Secret Service" and I have very little detail on it, probably for very good and valid reasons. Will Mr. Moloney tell us a little bit about this Vote and the type of spending, without telling us all of the details?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: For the record, will Mr. Moloney confirm the scale of the Vote?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: It is largely to do with decisions made by An Garda Síochána. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: Often, €2 million public spending gets a lot of scrutiny here. While I understand by their nature that secret services must be confidential, we would like to think there is some parallel governance for the Vote, particularly with regard to the use of informers. The illegal drugs industry is a scourge in my community. I would hate to think that public money was being spent recklessly...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: Not public scrutiny, however.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: I understand that and I thank Mr. Moloney for his responses.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (24 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: I wish to ask the Chief Whip to expedite the progress of the Circular Economy, Waste Management (Amendment) and Minerals Development (Amendment) Bill 2022, particularly the provisions regarding illegal dumping. I welcome to the Gallery representatives from Finglas Tidy Towns who are fresh from their victory at the Irish Pride of Place awards, like many communities across the country. This...

Recent Developments in Northern Ireland: Statements (25 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: The summation by Deputy Jim O'Callaghan is a good chronology of what happened during the Brexit process. We must look back at what has happened in the peace process in order to understand where we are. I was particularly pleased, as the co-convenor of the Irish-US parliamentary friendship group, to welcome, along with Senator Malcolm Byrne, the Cathaoirleach and the Ceann Comhairle, US...

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: An Garda Síochána (24 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: 47. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality the allocation of community gardaí and sergeants to Finglas Garda station in the K district; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [26118/22]

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Crime Prevention (24 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: 64. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality her plans to tackle and enhance legislation pertaining to gangland crime; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [26119/22]

Written Answers — Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade: Passport Services (24 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: 244. To ask the Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade the status of passport applications by persons (details supplied). [25727/22]

Written Answers — Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade: Passport Services (24 May 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: 286. To ask the Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade if a passport for a person (details supplied) will be expedited. [25880/22]

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