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Seanad: Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: Maybe she will respond.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (14 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: I wish Tom Hickey the very best of luck in his retirement. I did not realise he was moving on. He has been a fantastic civil servant and he will be a deep loss to the House. I raise the issue of the ACRES payment in the agriculture sector. The ACRES payment is really important for small farmers and they need to make sure they get money for this scheme. They were supposed to get paid last...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: I acknowledge the witnesses. I apologise for stepping out of the meeting; I had to do something in the Chamber. Mr. Coughlan and I have had our disagreements through the years. When the ICBF relocated from Bandon to Cork city, I was critical of the organisation for doing so. We had discussions on that issue. I still think that, given the nature of the industry, it was inappropriate for...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: I will, indeed. As much as I criticise the ICBF, I compliment it on the new index regarding the health issue Mr. Coughlan spoke about earlier. I ask him to elaborate on the TB element. I know Deputy Fitzmaurice might have issues in that regard. We will discuss the TB element later on. It is not directly part of this but how does it tie into the issue regarding what is being proposed with...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: Regarding the SCEP scheme and how this could have an impact on it, what changes does Mr. Coughlan think the Department should make, with the help of the ICBF, to make sure that we can get as many people as possible to qualify for it or to alleviate the pain? What practical changes could be proposed to help alleviate the pain for farmers?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: Mr. Coughlan might elaborate on his organisation. It is owned by private entities and is not accountable to this committee in many ways. Would that be fair?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: Even though it has a member on the board, the Department does not actually have-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: That is an unusual arrangement globally. My view is that the ICBF is acting as a hand of the Department without any principal legislation having been put in place to govern it. Is that a fair point?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: What I am trying to get is that, legally, the ICBF makes a recommendation, with Teagasc, regarding the index itself. It does not fall under the Department. Where does this-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: The Department basically licenses the ICBF to do this work.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: It is not, however, a semi-State board.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: It is very unusual.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: Regarding the membership of the board, I realised when I read the list that it has only two female members. Is Mr. Coughlan happy with that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: With new European legislation coming in, probably next year, to make sure there is over 30% representation of a gender, has the ICBF discussed how it will deal with that issue?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: I thank the Chair. Mr. Coughlan has been saved.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Eradication of TB: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: I would like to welcome the witnesses and I thank them for their contributions. First, I would like to declare an interest. I have been up and down with TB over the last five or six years on a continuous basis. I would like to comment first on the quality of staff. I acknowledge that the organisation's staff around the country are very capable, competent and do a very good job. I want...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Eradication of TB: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: There might be an outlet. It is a very unsavoury option; I accept that. A majority of farmers would rather do anything but that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Eradication of TB: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: That outlet is probably not what the majority of us want. We need to find a solution and to work towards it. Back in Covid-19 times, the date was changed on which calves could be moved to longer than 60 days. There was no massive jump in TB around Ireland off the back of that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Eradication of TB: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Tim Lombard: They were a majority of Friesian bull calves, so looking at the statistics, bulls or steers went through the roof. At the moment, 67.6% are cow numbers. If we look at our TB problem, it does not happen with calves or younger animals to such a degree. Two thirds of it falls directly into the line of cows and more mature animals.

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