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Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: I would say it has a lot to do with it.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: It will certainly have lots of consequences as part of the election. Section 3, and the fig leaf of a standard charge, is like a stay of execution for those who cannot afford water. The charge is only €3 a week in some cases. However, for those who do not have it, they will not be able to pay it. There has been a U-turn on the facility to have a consultation with the people, which...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: Something makes me think that Deputy Eamon Gilmore knew something in June 2010-----

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: -----or that he knew something about the issues facing the economy when he made the statement.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: In June 2010 there would have been quite a number of detailed reports about the state of the economy. In fact, I would say there were at least two budgets that would have shown anyone, including those who read the Irish Examiner-----

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: It was a statement by the then leader of the Labour Party that a flat household charge would be unfair-----

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: Section 3 states that a dwelling occupied by two or more adults as the place of their principal private residence would not pay more than €260. That is a flat charge. It is €160 for one adult. I am wondering how the Government can stand over such an issue and the same section, subsection (7), states that metering will be put in place at a charge of €1.85 for each 1,000...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: This is similar to section 3 and the point raised by Senator Craughwell about the viability of Irish Water. Many people are against the concept of paying for this public service.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: Again, to Government Members the surcharge of €30 or €60, depending on whether it is one or several occupants in the house, might appear to be a small amount of money. In the event people do not pay and with the new section on the prohibition of the reduction of supply, Senator Barrett will agree that sections 4 and 6 would go against the laws of economics. On the one hand,...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: Yes, but there is section 6.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: Yes, but section 6 has an impact on section 4.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: There are no consequences with supply if one does not pay water charges, other than a surcharge on one’s bill. I am sure someone in the ESB has done a little rule on this. Can one imagine if there were no consequences for not paying an electricity bill? There was a time, I accept, one could ratchet it up but it would never be cut off for a couple of years. In the same regard, if...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: Going back to the regulatory impact assessment, will the Department make available its costings and figures concerning the change in the original legislation whereby the supply will not be cut off and the fines are €30 and €60? How many do they expect? I am sure those figures must have been done and somebody in Uisce Éireann must have carried out that assessment. It...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: I asked a question about-----

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: I asked a question that was not answered.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: On a point of order, when the question was asked whether we agreed to debate amendments Nos. 19 to 21, inclusive, I replied that we were not taking them together.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: The screen indicates amendments Nos. 19 to 21, inclusive.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: I just wanted to clarify that. On the clarity being sought on the issue, is this really a mechanism to give people money and to allow the Government to get around European regulations? Is that the purpose behind this? The dread of any legislator is where legislation states that the Minister may make regulations for the purpose of this section to provide for the following: the amount of the...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: But that is section 5-----

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Mark Daly: We are asking that within six months the Minister will prepare a report, and this goes back to my earlier point to which I did not receive a reply. I was not allowed ask the Minister the follow-up question. I asked twice whether any regulatory impact assessment was done. This is a report we would like to see laid before the Houses. The central topic is whether anybody in the Department of...

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