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Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Sorry, but that does not make sense to me. If there is in the Supplementary Estimate a figure of €118 million for PPE-----

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: -----that is additional to what the Minister estimated for PPE, presumably, at the start of the year.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: No, I am looking just for the total amount on PPE.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I am asking what the total spend on PPE is for the year.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: This is the problem. We do not have the figures. We do not have the breakdown of any of this. There is a whole lot of surplus stuff in this documentation but we do not have the core stuff in respect of the Supplementary Estimate.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: At the end of last year, what did the Minister estimate would be needed for PPE in 2022?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: A Supplementary Estimate is additional funding.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: What was the original funding for PPE and what is the additional funding for it in the Supplementary Estimate?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I am asking the Minister about individual areas. Our job is to engage with these figures and to ensure we are getting value for money for the taxpayer. The Department has not provided us with enough material today to assure ourselves that we are getting value for money. We should not have to drag detail out of the Minister. I will leave that because I want the Department to supply us with...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Yes, sorry, the recognition payment.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: How many people does the Minister estimate are entitled to the payment?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: How many people does the Minister estimate are entitled to the payment?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: The Minister has proven our point.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: We cannot accept this while the Minister does not have basic information and a breakdown of the figures.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: We have been told that for months.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: We are getting calls from people asking when will they get the payment.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: So it is approximately 189,000 people who will be entitled to the payment. Is that what the Deputy is saying?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Yes.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: So, say, 190,000 people. To date, 124,000 people have got it, which was stated in a reply to a parliamentary question last week. So, in terms of the balance, there is a very large outstanding number of people who have not received the payment. How many of those additional people does the Minister expect will get the payment before Christmas?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary)
(30 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: So there are 66,000 people waiting for the payment for a very long period. Can the Minister give an assurance that all steps will be taken to ensure that the payment is made before Christmas?

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