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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: Are those the big ones population-wise or electorally?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: Will Mr. Brown circulate that to the committee after the meeting because many people would be interested in those timelines?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: Before bringing in the Department of Social Protection to respond to Deputy Ó Cuív, I welcome the students and staff from Ardscoil Phádraig, Granard, County Longford, to the committee meeting. We are talking about broadband, of all things. I am sure it is of as much interest in County Longford as in other parts of the country. I hope the students and staff get to see some of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: What might be helpful is this. I do not want to put Mr. O’Brien on the spot, but we have a Supplementary Estimate next week. He might ask his colleagues to provide a note in advance of us considering that Supplementary Estimate in order to allow Deputy Ó Cuív to bring up that specific issue when we have the Minister here in order to get further clarity.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: Did Mr. Whelan want to come in? No.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: Very briefly because we are running tight on time and I have one or two questions I want to ask.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: That is about 750,000 people.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: This is an issue the committee needs to return to because it is a broader one and we do not have the relevant players in front of us, although I will come back to it later. Deputy Ó Cuív is correct about population coverage. Coverage of 70% equates to 322 towns and cities. That is all it is. Three Ireland is on 85%, which is a bit higher than that. Even so, we are ignoring...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: We will come back to this-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: I want the Deputy to keep his powder dry on that because it is one we will come back to. I know well that students from County Longford will also be interested in questions about mobile phone coverage in north Longford. I have a couple of questions, and I am going to start at European level and come back to local level. Legally, the definition of high-speed broadband is 30 Mbps, which is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: I can tell Mr. Hendrick that there is one that is not on that list but should be, namely, Cloonakilla National School in south Roscommon. It is getting 4 Mbps at the moment, but it is blue on the national broadband plan, which means it is, in theory, able to get a high-speed broadband connection through the Open Eir network. Funnily enough, the houses on either side of the school are part...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: Yes. I ask the officials to address that as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: Will that be by 2030?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: The difficulty is that, at that stage, it is hoped every single person will, if NBI meets its targets, already have a fibre connection in the more peripheral areas. I am talking about in the interim. The difficulty is the 24-month implementation. The reality is the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications has not been exactly sharp in terms of delivering on those targets....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: That is no good to the people in the reddish brown area today who are now going to have to wait till 2028 to get a decent service.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: Being passed is great but connecting them is the problem.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: Mr. Mulligan was not the only one who was surprised about it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: Ms Collins wanted to come in there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: Templemore, Lusk in north Dublin, and Kells in County Meath.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Roll-out and Delivery of Broadband in Rural Areas: Discussion (15 Nov 2023)

Denis Naughten: I thank the witnesses for their time. There has been a dramatic ramping up of the delivery of broadband infrastructure, both wired and wireless, over the past number of years. I acknowledge that this is down to the efforts of each and every witness and the teams they represent here. We have come a long way from the discussions we have had in the committee previously on meeting targets for...

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