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National Parks and Wildlife Service Strategic Plan: Statements (Resumed) (19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: I welcome the opportunity to examine the Government’s strategic plan for the renewal of the National Parks and Wildlife Service. The plan sets out an ambitious timeline for a full organisational restructuring of the NPWS that I believe is much needed and long overdue. It provides a substantial €55 million additional investment in the organisation that will allow for the...

National Parks and Wildlife Service Strategic Plan: Statements (Resumed) (19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: It is worth asking.

Written Answers — Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment: Industrial Development (19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: 24. To ask the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment if he will provide an update on the number of jobs supported by the IDA and Enterprise Ireland in Dublin during 2021. [25245/22]

Written Answers — Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment: Departmental Policies (19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: 48. To ask the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment if he will provide an update on Government support for sectors of the economy impacted by the war in the Ukraine. [25244/22]

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: I welcome Mr. Moloney and I congratulate him on his appointment. I have been listening to colleagues’ questions, some of which I would like to touch on again. I will go back to the issue of secondment of people who are from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and who are ensconced into other Departments. One was referenced by Deputy Murphy earlier in relation to the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: I know they are across other Departments and other agencies. Is it the practice of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to have colleagues from its Department based in other Departments for the purpose of oversight of annual expenditure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: I appreciate and know that. It is not in every Department.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: It is based primarily based on the annual accounts and the Department is monitoring their expenditure from the outturn versus what was estimated in the Vote or in the budget.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: Those Departments that have a high expenditure include the Department of Health and the Department of Social Protection. What other ones are there?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: I will turn to the 2020 Vote 11 accounts and specifically to note 1: operating cost statement 2020. In one section, Mr. Moloney outlines the expenditure borne that is elsewhere, which includes notional rents. That figure is static between 2020 and 2019. Could Mr. Moloney outline what that relates to, please?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: It is on page eight, just for reference.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: That is why it is a fixed rate.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: I was going to ask how many properties there are. Is Mr. Moloney saying that it is only those on Merrion Row?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: Staying with Vote 11, section 2.3 deals with other debt balances. I assume that there are recuperable expenses. There are salaries, travel expenses, travel pass expenditure and other debit suspense items. What struck me was the difference between the 2019 and 2020 figure under recuperable travel pass expenditure. Was that primarily down to Covid-19 and to fewer staff claiming for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: Again, staying with Vote 11, on page 14, there is the postal and telecommunications services from within the Department. There was astronomical outturn, when compared to the figure of 2020. The provision for 2020, I presume again was in relation to Covid-19, was €22,000 and yet the outturn was €14,000. I presume the annual running of that line figure is approximately...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: That would explain the difference.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: That explains that. Let us turn to the issue of the new office. I have a question on it. Some 30% of the OGCIO’s programme expenditure related to pay and that is understandable. Its next largest expenditure was on ICT services, which accounted for approximately 68% of overall expenditure. Is that an initial set-up cost and a once-off or is there an ongoing reliance on...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: Correct.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of Government Chief Information Officer
2020 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(19 May 2022)

Cormac Devlin: Since its establishment in 2013, would the ICT spend be that high on a year-on-year basis?

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