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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: The first point I want to take up is with regard to what was said last Thursday in relation to the internal audit department. I will address this to Mr. Collins and Mr. Lynch. Am I right in saying there were two people? That is extraordinary for an organisation with 1,600 people. I wish I was putting this point to Ms Dee Forbes but she is not here for obvious reasons. Two people are not...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: I am not finished. The staff in RTÉ are trying to figure that out as well. It has to have come from some type of structure that was totally and utterly inadequate, inappropriate and negligent in the highest order. I have to come back to Mr. Bakhurst again. He was assistant director general of RTÉ at one point. How can anyone stand over this?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: The fact the audit and risk committee only had two people on it. Was only one of them a qualified accountant?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: What is their-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: I do not want names, but what does the other person do?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: What does that mean?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: Is that person in the accounting department? Is it Dustin the Turkey?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: What did they report? Did they identify anything?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: I will ask Mr. Shortt because he seems to have some information on it. Would they have done a report per se?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: On foot of that information from Mr. Shortt, which was very helpful and for which I thank him, will Mr. Bakhurst publish them? Will he show us what they say?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: Yes, and the special reports on individual items, not just the internal audit report.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: I need a commitment from Mr. Bakhurst on this.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: The first day these issues were identified, and I do not think Mr. Bakhurst is in a position to answer this so I will come back to Mr. Lynch, it was a whistleblower who originally brought these issues to the attention of RTÉ, was it not? It was not the first Grant Thornton report.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: Please, if that is okay with the chairperson.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: The original issues that were brought to light. We had the €345,000 and the Renault payments.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: Was it a whistleblower within the organisation who brought these issues to public light rather than the Grant Thornton report?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: No, they were hidden payments. Am I right in saying the first Grant Thornton report did not identify that? RTÉ issued a statement, and I stand to be corrected, that Mr. Tubridy's salary was undervalued by €75,000. Is that not correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: This is just to be careful here. I actually have that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: I do not mean to interrupt Ms Ní Raghallaigh but on 22 June, RTÉ issued the following statement: In addition ... [to the] following the furnishing of the findings of the Grant Thornton review, RTÉ carried out a review of Mr. Tubridy’s previously stated remunerations. Through this review, it was identified that Mr. Tubridy’s remuneration had been ......

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: Where did that information come from? That is what I want to get at.

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