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Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Fergus O'Dowd: ...Transport, Tourism and Sport, Deputy Ross, and his officials. Since our earlier meeting and in accordance with procedure, the Bills Office has accepted a further four amendments in the names of Deputies Troy, Michael Collins, Mattie McGrath and Danny Healy Rae. It is proposed to group amendments Nos. 1 to 1d, inclusive, for the purposes of today's debate. Is that agreed? Agreed. ...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Fergus O'Dowd: Prior to the conclusion of our previous meeting, Deputy Troy had moved amendment No. 1 and the Minister had the floor to reply. Does Deputy Troy wish to make any further comments on the amendment?

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: No. I outlined the position in detail at the previous meeting and I am interested to hear the Minister's reply.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Shane Ross: I will not accept the amendment and I will outline my reasons for Deputy Troy. We have a problem here sometimes with drafting. I understand Deputy Troy's intent but the effect of what he has set down is not the same as what he intended. We often hear complaints that drink-driving cases take too long to go to court. According to the wording of the amendment, Deputy Troy wishes to move...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: The Minister is right. I have highlighted my intention on every occasion we have discussed this legislation. The Minister is correct that the Opposition is somewhat hamstrung due to the lack of resources. The Minister originally mooted this Bill over 14 months ago and, even with the support of a full Department and its officials, it has still taken him this long to bring it to Committee...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Shane Ross: Deputy Murphy is quite correct. I am somewhat caught in a bind here. I am keen to get this amendment into the legislation but I do not wish to delay Committee Stage again. Deputy Troy is correct that this Bill has taken an incredibly long time and if we were to delay the legislation further in anticipation of that, it could take ages. We want to get this legislation through and there have...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Kevin O'Keeffe: ...Minister for Justice and Equality on the issue of repeat offenders, no figures were available in respect of this section which we are being asked to amend to increase the penalties. Deputy Robert Troy is correct when he says the Minister is trying to pick the fruit from the lower branches of the tree and that he is not assessing the entire issue. What has the Minister been doing about...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: We would have been better off without the Minister being there.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: I thought they were being taken together.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: It is not my intention to drag out the debate but it is the Minister who has failed to bring this legislation through the Oireachtas in a timely manner. It is he who has failed to secure Government time to debate this measure in the Dáil, and it is not the Opposition. If he had secured time in the Dáil, as he said he would, before the last summer recess it would have been dealt...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: I accept that.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: The Minister should not keep talking about the quality of the amendments. He is being pedantic. He has chosen to focus on one element of a report on the period between 2008 and 2012 and ignored what contributed to the vast majority of fatalities, instead bringing in an amendment to disqualify people with between 50 mg and 80 mg of alcohol in their system. He is saying he does not want to...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Shane Ross: ...avoid the issue of disqualification and would continue to allow people to drive with between 50 mg and 80 mg of alcohol in their system. Why does he not just accept the proposal? Deputy Troy has equivocated on this and moved from one position to another. Now he is pretending that he wants to put people-----

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: I am not equivocating.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Fergus O'Dowd: I ask the Minister to allow Deputy Troy to reply.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: That is nonsense.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: I have asked but there is-----

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Fergus O'Dowd: Deputy O'Keeffe please, another Member wished to speak also and I want to get the order of speakers right. Deputy Troy indicated that he wanted to come back in.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: I asked the Minister a number of questions, one of which is if he was still operating from the Road Safety Authority, RSA report of 2008 to 2012 and if there was a new audited report from the RSA that has not been made available to the committee members. This is a straightforward "yes" or "no" request. I also asked what the strength of the Garda traffic corps is currently.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Mar 2018)

Robert Troy: No, sorry that is not the question-----

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