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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is that a yes?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I would expect it to be. My next question is to the Comptroller and Auditor General. I had a conversation with Mr. Ó Foghlú at the beginning about when the meetings happened after the Ryan report was published in 2009. The offer of €352 million was made after a series of meetings. When the Comptroller and Auditor General was compiling his report, did he get records of any...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. McCarthy did not-----

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Comptroller and Auditor General did not check the records of the actual meetings.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are concluding the discussion of this issue now. It would be very wrong of me at this stage not to reiterate, on behalf of the committee, the apology made by the Taoiseach in 1999 on behalf of the State to the survivors of abuse when he announced the establishment of the Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse. We have been talking about the financial end of it. It might be a little raw...

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: In our first session we examined the Comptroller and Auditor General's special report No. 96 on the cost of the child abuse inquiry and redress scheme. In this session we will examine the financial statements of Caranua for 2014 and 2015. As I mentioned earlier, Caranua is an independent State body which was set up to help people who had experienced abuse in residential institutions in...

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I invite Ms Higgins of Caranua to make her opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is just that we are trying to follow it.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: When Ms Higgins is finished, we will circulate it. Is the content of the draft we received-----

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will keep going and listen carefully.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are at a little bit of a disadvantage.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I am going to ask for a copy. There will be time. As soon as Ms Higgins finishes, we will get a copy.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will have copies circulated in a moment. All I can say at this stage is that members should bear with us.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Ms Higgins should complete her contribution and we will then make and circulate a copy.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: If that is worst bit of confusion caused today, it will be quite all right. I thank Ms Higgins for her statement. Somebody will collect it from her and we will copy and circulate it. I know that we had received a briefing note. There will be votes in the Dáil shortly and we will probably have to suspend while they are taking place.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: As a vote has been called in the Dáil and there are likely to be a number of other votes called, we will suspend the sitting until 2.30 p.m.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Apologies for the lengthy suspension but the timing of the voting in the Dáil was outside of our control. In regard to the questions posed prior to the suspension by Deputy Madigan, the Deputy cannot, unfortunately, be here this afternoon but I will allow the witnesses an opportunity later to put any responses they may have in that regard on the record.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: May I interrupt the Deputy for one second?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I have to go out for ten minutes to another meeting. Will Deputy Connolly propose that Deputy Cullinane takes the chair in my absence?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: The time is up.

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