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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: From what document is the Deputy reading?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I see. This is the attachment to the Deputy's item. We will note No. 2585C, which comes from the Deputy herself. We are discussing the attachment to that document in conjunction with the letter from the HSE. We will note and publish the Deputy's letter as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: The HSE says that this system "is fully operational in HSE East since June 2019", which is only a few months ago. We received this correspondence in November. We are not going to publish the Deputy's correspondence because it includes the name of an individual.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Was it received in the last month or two? Is it possible to check?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is recent enough. I do not have the date in front of me. What would the Deputy like the committee to do?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: The HSE says it went live in its eastern region this summer. We can write to the HSE to ask what issues arose as part of this roll-out, what lessons were learned, whether the problems have been solved, and what the timetable for the further roll-out is.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: We want to know if it is fine-tuned. That is fine. The HSE did say "There were specific concerns raised in relation to payments of overtime, public holidays and premium pay" and that one of these required a systems reconfiguration. It accepts one of those issues.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Something here intrigues me. The HSE says that "The introduction of the new system has had a particular impact on the 400 Time Returning Officers". I do not know whether this is a full-time post or just part of someone's job. If everyone is directly inputting their own information, what are the 400 time returning officers doing now? The HSE also says "In addition, staff in the payroll and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is everybody inputting his or her own time now directly?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: What do the 400 staff who were inputting up to now do?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: This is in addition to staff in the payroll and staff records department. They are different staff. There are time-returning officers and next sentence mentions the staff in the payroll and staff records department spending less time on manual data entry and increased time on data validation. I would have thought something like this would lead to some efficiencies and release staff hours...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I do not get it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is stated that to minimise the reoccurrence of the issues, additional training was provided to a targeted group of time-returning officers. We want them to spell out who are the time-returning officers and the staff in the payroll and staff records department. We want a more detailed view. This correspondence will come back to us when we get that information. The next correspondence...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Fine. It is a transport matter but RSA issues have come before the committee. This is another element of much previous correspondence. We will just note it and we are not taking any further action on it. No. 2573C is from an individual, dated 6 November 2019, requesting the committee to enquire about the international numbering system and procurement relating to the public services...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: The particular correspondence asks if the machine is used by Deputies to print election posters. The answer is a categorical "No". The letter asks what is going on and states this is another scandal, etc. The machine does not print any election material and that is specifically prohibited under legislation and Oireachtas rules, and by the Standards in Public Office Commission. I assure...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am assured we will have responses by 10 December, which is next Tuesday. We will have the opportunity to consider them before next Thursday's meeting. As soon as we come in on Thursday, we can decide if the replies are adequate or if we want to meet the persons concerned that afternoon. We all recognise the comments and correspondence from the public on the matter. We want to achieve...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Global valuation. That is in the legislation.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: We have issued correspondence to the Valuation Office. We might also have to write to the relevant Department about the Deputy's point concerning the legislation and when its provisions are coming into effect. The Valuation Office might not cover those points in response to what we asked last week. We will ask the relevant Department to provide that information.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Some of the major cities seem to have seen a reduction-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: -----and some of the rural counties have benefited.

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