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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: In what?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: There is none. There is just this list.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Clearly, it is not. Otherwise we would not be having this discussion. Does Mr. McCarthy wish at the next meeting to give the committee his view on the audit and whether it is appropriate or whether we should go through the HEA to find out the information?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will come to that issue in one minute.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. McCarthy mean that he does a report on the financial statements or that he does a special report?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: To clarify, in order that people will understand the subtlety, if Mr. McCarthy is dealing with the annual audit of the appropriation accounts of a line Department, for example, the Department of Education and Skills which we are currently discussing and an issue comes to light, he can include a specific chapter on it in his annual report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: When it comes to the financial statements of other organisations which he audits, other than the appropriation accounts, he does not have a mechanism to include a special chapter in his report. That is something at which we need to look. Mr. McCarthy is only in a position to highlight issues to us about line Departments. Where he believes there is a need to provide additional information,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: It might be helpful-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. McCarthy might send us an information note on the matter. If we believe there is a gap in the system of public accountability that is not covered by the legislation, we will come back to the issue.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes. I read it just a minute ago.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Among the other things for which we are waiting from each of the colleges, including NUIG, is information on procurement and gender balance.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will surely receive it shortly then.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will come to it specifically under the heading of correspondence.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is the Deputy talking about library costs?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: As a result of last week's meeting about the DIT's loss of €750,000 on the library contract and the shared service agreement being operated in Limerick, we need to write to the organisation which was referenced in the president of the DIT's opening statement and ask what other institutes of technology were involved and if the organisation can give us some information on their possible...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is that the document Deputy Cullinane submitted yesterday?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I confirm that on every single occasion when Deputy Cullinane spoke on that topic, and to every institution, he did not suggest any wrongdoing or fault but that he just wanted to get the facts and to find out the policy that was being implemented. The Deputy raised the management of conflicts of interest on every occasion. We made it clear that we were not asking the individual about his...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Madigan is correct. The secretariat and I keep an eye and check. Even when we get a reply from an institution of which we might have asked eight or nine questions we might get good answers to six of them but two of them might not be fully answered. In such cases we always go back to seek all the necessary information. We give people a little time to come back to us.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: It was published.

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