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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: Superman. Good man.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: I accept that but it stretches the credibility that Mr. Tubridy does not understand any of the dealings that are going on.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: I appreciate that. So do we all.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: This is not an lynch mob here. That is true. We all do.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: When a company's accounts are signed off people must take responsibility for those accounts, notwithstanding what their accountant tells them. One must know that everything is right and is proper, before oneself and one's maker. I do value it and my children and grandchildren love the toy show. I did have one issue during Covid with the whole Pfizer element and of the children being used...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: Never.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: RTÉ just got all the benefits.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: We will ask but it is very hard to get answers off them, in fairness. They are not forthcoming.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: In all that has gone on since with regard to the fiduciary duties of the board, and many of them are gone now-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: -----all was not well there. How does that sit with Mr. Tubridy now? I am aware that he has been getting a lot of criticism and all of that. I am delighted that so he is getting so may cards of goodwill, and we do wish him goodwill-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: I can appreciate that, and for Mr. Tubridy's family also. We would also send our good wishes to them. There were people out there, however, who during that time were suffering due to cuts in their incomes and there were small businesses in particular that were wiped out-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: -----despite their hard work and due to the fact they were not getting the proper help. Is Mr. Tubridy sorry now that he did not correct the figures when they were published?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: I appreciate that Mr. Tubridy is putting his hands up, absolutely. Does Mr. Tubridy still have full confidence in Mr. Kelly?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: I appreciate that, and I do not expect his friendships to be upset, but on a human level I would very find it very hard to accept false invoices, and that they were not invoices for the purposes they were created by different companies and changed in a separate company again. That is not standard practice for anybody. I would not buy a truck like that if somebody said that I needed to get a...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: Mr. Kelly cannot use "instruction". Is it a case of ask no questions, hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil? One has to have some idea-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: We know now about trust. What of the licence payers and their trust?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: But in business one cannot take everybody at their own say so. One must make sure one can stand it up and that invoices are legitimate.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: I thank the Cathaoirleach.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: Indeed. If Mr. Tubridy is out of a job on Friday, which he seems to think he might be, he is welcome down to retrace his footsteps and maybe make a film.

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: School Staff (11 Jul 2023)

Mattie McGrath: 282. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills the reason there is such a large discrepancy between the pension entitlement for a primary school teacher and that of an SNA, where both staff pay the same percentage of their salary to their pension and the SNA pension entitlement is two-and-a-half times less than that of teachers; the reason for the discrepancy; if he will urgently review...

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