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Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The cost of collecting this revenue is less than the revenue collected. The figures the Deputy has outlined-----

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I have told the Deputy on numerous occasions I will get him those data. I have outlined all the costs.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I have outlined all the costs regarding this on numerous occasions, making up to €899 million that will be spent. I have also outlined the €130 million in the conservation grant on numerous occasions. The CER looked at the costs. Customer operation costs are on its site. As I have said previously, I will get the Deputy those data. The water conservation grant is a...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The only-----

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: No, they have a principal private residence where they are renting.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: That is not true.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: No.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: There are 1.3 million principal primary residences. People living in their homes will get this grant should they sign up. If they own other properties they will not get it for other properties.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: A tenant who is renting what is his or her primary residence will get the grant too. However, a person who has multiple properties will only get the grant based on the primary residence. Tenants will get the grant. The figure is 1.3 million.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: It is our estimation that the figure is 1.3 million principal or primary residences, and they will be eligible for this €100. If a person owns the house in which he or she lives, he or she will get the grant. If the person has another nine or ten or 20 or 40 premises, however, they will not get it for those. However, a tenant in a property will get a conservation grant once he or...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The revised allowed revenue approved by the Commission for Energy Regulation on 30 September 2014 was €958 million. The adjustment to reflect the change in commercial rates is €59 million, which gives a final revised revenue of €899 million. This is made up of an operation subvention of €399 million, domestic billed income of €271 million, non-domestic...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I have outlined how Irish Water is funded. If one deducts €130 million, one can derive the net figure. It is a question of subtracting €130 million from €899 million.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The answer is quite simple: the figure of 1.3 million is based on the primary households which is €130 million.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: How is it wrong? The figure is €130 million-----

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: It is based on principal primary residences. I have outlined the figures and I have read them into the record of the House on how they add up. The allowed revenue approved by the CER was €958 million, less the €59 million for commercial rates The revised revenue is €899 million, which is made up of the €399 million from the revised Government operational...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: People who have paid for water for decades-----

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: -----have spent thousands.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: They have to service their wells, treatment systems and group schemes as well. Some Members might not be familiar with those but I certainly am.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: They have spent thousands. Great credit is due to all of those who were involved in group schemes and have worked so diligently down through the years, and it should be recorded. There were a number of questions related to the Department of Social Protection, DSP. This will be actioned by the DSP. The Department of Social Protection is quite happy to handle these queries. It is worth...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: -----the Department of Social Protection is in a position to respond and deliver this. They are quite happy to deliver this on behalf of the Department. The real answer to Deputy Boyd Barrett's question, which I answered previously but the Deputy was out of the House, is that, because it goes into the drain and is not treated as sewerage, it is merely good practice. There is not a big...

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