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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Is anyone aware of any conversations or discussions that the director general may have had with the agent representing Mr. Tubridy or Mr. Tubridy himself?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Okay. It would be reasonable to say that the process of uncovering these payments could well have influenced Ryan Tubridy’s decision to step down from his role presenting “The Late Late Show”.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: It is possible. I want to focus on the first year of the tripartite deal and the payments. Ms O’Leary already stated that she negotiated and was responsible for that part.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: On the credit note issued by Renault, who issued-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: To Renault.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Had they sought that credit note?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Where did the request for the credit note go from there?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Did Mr. Collins see that request at that stage?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: What was the nature of the request? What was explicitly stated on it that the credit note was for?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Did not cop? Did Mr. Collins ask?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Mr. Collins was asked to sign off on-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Mr. Collins was copied on an email.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Was Mr. Collins asleep at the wheel?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: It appears Mr. Collins was asleep at the wheel on several fronts.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: A final point.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: It is very clear that the guarantee kicked in from year one of the contract, not, as we were told, only in years two and three. In year one, RTÉ paid €75,000. RTÉ was propping up; essentially the guarantee was there from year one, contrary to what was stated by Ms O'Leary, that she was not aware of any guarantee to underpin-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: I wish to go back to a statement Mr. Collins made earlier in relation to the agreement that was in place with Mr. Tubridy. He spoke about the concealment and the deception. He also made a statement where he described the taxpayer as being defrauded.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Okay. Mr. Collins stated that the taxpayer was defrauded, so that is a very serious-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Okay, in his opinion. Has Mr. Collins spoken to An Garda Síochána and made a statement about that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Does Mr. Collins intend on making a statement to the Garda? Defrauding is a serious offence. It is unlawful, and that is a statement that Mr. Collins has made. On that basis, will he speak to the Garda?

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