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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Dr. Jackson should not take Senator Crown's bait.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: That is outside of our remit. However, we will take note of the question. As 20 minutes remain in this segment of the meeting I ask the witnesses to focus on the questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I think the Deputy means Bishop Jones.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Bishop Smith is the Deputy's Bishop.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: He did well with Hector the other night.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I welcome Rabbi Lent to the meeting and apologise for any confusion as to time. He may make his presentation now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I remind members that 11 of their number have indicated they want to speak. Members should be brief in asking a question and directing it to a particular church or the atheist organisation. If a question has already been asked, I ask members not to repeat it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Please speak into the microphone.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Thank you, Fr. Bartlett.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I should point out that it has not taken the death of a miscarrying woman to bring us here. Perhaps that was an incorrect statement. I propose that we hear from Rabbi Zalman Lent when he arrives. Is that agreed? Agreed. Members have 60 minutes to ask questions. I ask members to be brief and direct their questions to the relevant church person or member of Atheist Ireland.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Dr. Morrow. I now welcome Dr. Ali Selim from the Islamic Cultural Centre of Ireland.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I want to point out to the committee that the representative of the Irish Jewish community, Rabbi Zalman Lent, is on his way. He was delayed and sends his apologies. We will take the presentation of the Atheist Ireland representative, Mr. Michael Nugent. He and Ms Jane Donnelly are very welcome.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Before beginning proceedings, for the information of members I note the joint committee has received e-mails from Dr. John Monaghan, Portiuncula Hospital, Ballinasloe, and Dr. James Clinch, Dublin, expressing their concerns regarding the hearings during the week. The e-mails arrived at 8.41 p.m. and 10.24 p.m. last night. The clerk spoke to Dr. Clinch this morning and he is satisfied that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Thank you, Dr. Jones. I welcome the Most Rev. Dr. Michael Jackson, Archbishop of Dublin, on behalf of the Church of Ireland.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Thank you, Dr. Jackson. Our next speaker is Ms Heidi Good from the Methodist Church in Ireland. She is very welcome.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (9 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank our guests. We have reached the end of the session. Do Professor Binchy or Mrs. Justice McGuinness wish to make any closing remarks or are they prepared to leave matters as they stand?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (9 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Professor Binchy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (9 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Professor Binchy and Mrs. Justice McGuinness for coming before the committee, for imparting their wisdom to us and for their patience. I also thank members and non-members of the committee for their forbearance. I remind everyone that we will recommence proceedings at 9.30 a.m. tomorrow and that witnesses from six churches and one non-church will be present for the opening session....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (9 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I apologise to the witnesses for the avalanche of questions, but it is important that members who have been in the Chamber all day be allowed to contribute. I invite Professor Binchy to respond.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (9 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: It might be more appropriate for Professor Binchy to return to the modern age now.

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