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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: There can be no point of order.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: As the Senator knows, throughout these proceedings each group is given an allocated time in which to make its presentation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: To clarify, the time limit for each group is seven minutes. In fact, that allocation was exceeded, and I was generous on that point given what happened with Ms Simons's microphone. The Chair is fair to all members and witnesses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: As the Senator is aware from proceedings in the course of these deliberations, witnesses, be it in groups of one or two, are given ample opportunity to participate.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: It is not a question of my judgment. The committee has agreed on rules and regulations for the conduct of these hearings.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Thank you, Senator. I now call Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I welcome Mr. David Manley from Family and Life.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I welcome Ms Breda O'Brien from the Iona Institute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I welcome everyone to the meeting. This is the ninth session of the hearings of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Health and Children to discuss the implementation of the Government decision following the recent publication of the expert group report into matters relating to A, B and C v. Ireland. At each session up to and including this morning's, we heard thoughtful and considered...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank all members of the churches and the atheist organisations for being here this morning .

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senator is over time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senator is being unfair to other members. I call Deputy Michael Creed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: On a point of clarification, the church is made up of both men and women. I call Senator White.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The 60 minute time limit for questions from members of the joint committee has elapsed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We will come back to that during the questions and answers session. As there are only 20 minutes available during which non-members of the committee may put questions and nine members have indicated I must ask them to be brief. I call Deputy Eric Byrne.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy cannot raise that particular issue as it is currently under investigation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I cannot allow any questions on that matter.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy is getting into another realm now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I appreciate that but the matter is not relevant to today's discussion. There is an investigation under way of that matter and I would prefer that the Deputy not discuss it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: It is not relevant.

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