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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I advise the Deputy to be careful in the language used. I am endeavouring to protect him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Is Mr. Doran saying the changes have not worked?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: What do managers do in that case when they receive the note from a staff member?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Surely, there must be a process in place. What happens once a ward sister or a nurse informs the director of nursing that he or she has been compromised?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Does the director of nursing or anyone else investigate the claim with the nurse?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: No. I chastised Deputy Ó Caoláin and Deputy Healy in a nice way for that. If you could avoid it, I would appreciate it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Can we avoid a discussion on that, please?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Deputy, you are straying now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Thank you.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: To use GAA parlance, the advantage rule was applied.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Unlike the ball boy last night, I hope neither you nor any of the members will be putting your head or body in the way of the kick that might come from the Chair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We will return to that at another date.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I have one question about front-line staff being ignored. Is it fair or correct to say that the HSE officials do not engage with front-line staff or they only engage with the umbrella organisation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Are they are not engaging because of fear?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I should put on record that it is not that we are not going to discuss the graduate scheme but rather that the request came in last November from Mr. Doran that the committee would discuss this particular report. We were very happy to facilitate that request. I do not want people to think we are shying away from any discussion but the specific request was that we discuss this report. To be...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I would prefer the Deputy to stick to the report rather than raising outside matters, to be fair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I am sorry to interrupt, Deputy, but somebody's phone is interfering with the sound system.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Mr. Doran. The Chair allowed him the luxury of 19 minutes, which is not normally afforded to witnesses appearing before the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: In fairness, Mr. Doran went to the trouble of giving a very in-depth presentation for which I thank him. I take the opportunity to pay tribute to nursing and midwifery staff in hospitals and in the community for the Trojan work they do. We appreciate they are valued members of our public service. On a personal level, I thank Mr. Micheál Dineen and Ms Patsy Doyle for their hospitality...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Independent Study into Ward Staffing Levels: Discussion with INMO (24 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: May I remind the Deputy-----

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