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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 1 - President's Establishment (Revised)
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Revised)
Vote 3 - Office of the Attorney General (Revised)
Vote 4 - Central Statistics Office (Revised)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Revised)
Vote 6 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor (Revised)
(9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Go raibh maith agat, a Thaoisigh. We have to finish at 4.44 p.m. I will let an Teachta McGreehan in first the next time. I thank the Taoiseach and his officials for assisting the committee with our consideration of the Revised Estimates. Go raibh míle maith agaibh go léir. That concludes the select committee's business in public session for today. The select committee stands...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Message to Dáil (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: In accordance with Standing Order 102, the following message will be sent to the Clerk of the Dáil: The Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach has completed its consideration of the following Revised Estimates for public services for the service year ending 31 December 2025: Vote 1 - President's Establishment; Vote 2 -...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: We have received apologies from Deputy Shay Brennan and Senator Alice-Mary Higgins. I advise members of the constitutional requirements that members must be physically present within the confines of the Leinster House complex in order to participate in public meetings. I will not permit members to participate where they are not adhering to this constitutional requirement. Therefore a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Go raibh maith agat. I call Deputy McGreehan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Before the Taoiseach answers, there is a vote at the moment, so I will see if a Seanadóir will step into my place or we could suspend.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: We will suspend for the vote and come back.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Gabhaim buíochas leis an Seanadóir Byrne as a bheith mar Chathaoirleach Gníomhach. We had interrupted an Teachta Timmins due to a vote. He has three minutes left.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: What has politicised me is my view in terms of a united Ireland. When I talk to people about this I like to talk about the things that we agree with. I think the things that we agree on, in respect of the Taoiseach's response, is the concept of unity. For me, this is about a unity referendum. It is about having everybody involved in the conversation and that means people of all different...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: That is my view.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: The Taoiseach mentioned that there are issues that have not been engaged with and that is the case. To be honest, and it is important to be honest, without structured conversations on unity we kind of are ignoring the elephant in the room. It is contained within the Good Friday Agreement and it is something that has not been realised from the agreement. We need to move forward on a basis of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Go raibh maith agat, a Thaoiseach agus gach duine. I have been strict on time with other speakers and must also be strict on time with myself. Our next meeting is next Wednesday, 16 July, when we will commence in public session at 2.30 p.m.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Is féidir linn bogadh ar aghaidh anois.  I am conscious of time and I want to keep our discussion within time and I will now ask a few questions. I am sure that the Taoiseach will agree that it is important to plan for the future for all of us in all our lives. That is particularly the case when setting out the course of what will happen in this country in the future. It is a...

Student Fees: Motion [Private Members] (8 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: The Minister clearly does not know how budgets work. I have only two minutes of speaking time so I will not be able to go through it now but I have no problem sitting down with him at some other time to go through exactly how budgets work. Budgets are about political choices. The Minister says it is a policy decision. It is a policy decision the Government said it was going to take.

Student Fees: Motion [Private Members] (8 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: In the run-up to the general election, the Government parties made all of these promises about how they were going to get rid of student fees. The Tánaiste even said in November that he would return to genuinely free fees and that this would be done over the lifetime of the next Government if he was returned to power. What do we have instead? The first thing we hear is that promise...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Engagement with the Central Bank of Ireland (8 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Absolutely, if we can definitely get that correspondence because sometimes there is a situation whereby we ask questions and do not always get the exact response. I am not saying in relation to Mr. Madouros or anything like that.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Engagement with the Central Bank of Ireland (8 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: It is really important. This is an issue that has understandably angered people, in my opinion. If there is any doubt that maybe that would be the case, that would add very strongly to the argument. I totally take Mr. Madouros's point and thank him, if he could do that. I also want to draw attention to something that was big in the news today, and that is in relation to the eight...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Engagement with the Central Bank of Ireland (8 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: I understand that the Central Bank does not regulate ISIF, but who does?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Engagement with the Central Bank of Ireland (8 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Okay, no problem. I have a number of questions on it. To be honest, it is one of the most pressing issues of the moment. That is why I felt it was essential to raise it here. That would be my view on it. Some quite interesting things came out of the meeting here today. Something that really interested me was how we could use procurement contracts. I cannot remember which of the...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Engagement with the Central Bank of Ireland (8 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: It was on the basis of them mentioning it that I asked.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Engagement with the Central Bank of Ireland (8 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Gabhaim buíochas leis na finnéithe as teacht os comhair an choiste to discuss matters with us. First, I want to talk about the Israeli war bonds. In the conversation about Israeli war bonds, one of the big things that is said is that, even if the Central Bank does not approve the prospectus, another member state could do so and the bonds could be sold regardless. I will bring to...

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