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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: To be fair, the Deputy might show some respect to the delegates.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Some balance is all I suggest.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy is incorrect because if one takes the HSE plan unfurled last week, there was consultation this week.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I am sorry, Deputy, but this is a House of Parliament and we are Members of the Oireachtas.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The language we use and the way we say things-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Will the Deputy, please, be considerate to those who are present?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Will the Deputy, please, be considerate to those who are in attendance today-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: -----and try not to engage in cheap headline-making?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: All I am saying is that the Deputy can make his remarks without being personal.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin made this point without being personal.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Ms McGuinness might note it is fair to state the two presentations are like day and night. Members heard a different viewpoint from the delegates who preceded the HSE representatives from that provided by Ms McGuinness. Consequently, they will be interested to hear her responses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Was there consultation with all stakeholders in arriving at the standards?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Táimid i seisiún poiblí. Inniu, tá an fo-choiste anseo chun díospóireacht a dhéanamh ar choinníollacha fostaíochta dochtúirí neamh-chomhairleacha ospidéil. Ba mhaith liom fíor fáilte a ghabháil le baill Fheidhmeannacht na Seirbhíse Sláinte. I welcome to the second part of the meeting Ms Laverne McGuinness,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The other gentlemen are welcome to sit in the front if they wish. Rather than having them hide behind their colleagues we wish to show respect to them given the effort they have made to attend the meeting. I thank them for attending.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Before we suspend at the conclusion of this part of our meeting, I thank most sincerely Ms Shirley Coulter, and the three doctors, Dr. Mark Murphy, Dr. Shane Considine and Dr. Grainne O'Kane, in particular, for their presence here today, the articulation of their viewpoints and their willingness to engage with the committee. From a committee point of view, we are concerned about this issue....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We will get the second half of the story from our engagement with the HSE and we can discuss that point, which is a fair one, in the summation later.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Go raibh míle maith agaibh. Tá an comhchoiste ar fionraí go dtí 3.30 p.m. We will suspend until 3.30 p.m.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Why is there no joined-up thinking between the colleges, management, the HSE and the IMO?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Will the Deputy please use parliamentary language?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Pay and Conditions of Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors: Discussion (5 Mar 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Will the Deputy withdraw the remark?

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