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Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I am going to give a figure. The eFlow figures on page 20 of the accounts show income of €118 million. Some €5 million is being written off so, for every 22 vehicles on the road, one gets off scot free. That is a mile different from what Mr. O'Neill said. It is a simple analysis of the figures in the accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: For how many years has Transport Infrastructure Ireland been operating this toll?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: And now there are plans, nine years on. Could Mr. O'Neill explain that?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is that when the agency went to court?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: From the over 2,000 judgments, how much was collected and who collected it? Was it a private company or the sheriff?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The agency gets the proceeds.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: There were 63 cars seized last year and sold.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: They would not be included in the write-offs as the agency is getting the money.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: After all of that, there was still €5 million written off.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: What is the worst case of a vehicle making a large number of trips without the user paying?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Some car users have made hundreds of trips and never paid.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: What other mechanisms are available?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. O'Neill mind me asking if the agency is a sitting duck?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: There were 63 cars taken.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: How many journeys does the sum of €5.2 million represent? Is it 1.5 million journeys? It is over 1 million journeys, as some may have been vans.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does it mean that 1 million journeys on the M50 in 2016 were not paid for?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I had worked it out as one in 22 trips, but it is not quite that ratio. It is certainly over 1 million trips each year. Is there anything Transport Infrastructure Ireland can do to improve the position? People may be the problem, but if they hear that, effectively, they can get off scot free, I would be worried that it would lead to more users wanting to do the same.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: There may be tourists who do not pay.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: What is the largest amount written off per vehicle? Mr. O'Neill has stated some people had hundreds of fines. What is the single biggest amount written off? It might apply to a truck.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. O'Neill have an idea? There is a figure for bad debts. It would aggravate me on an ongoing basis if there were 1 million trips each year not being paid for. Is there some indication of the worst cases?

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