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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: There is a clear audited opinion for the National Cancer Registry Board. In respect of the fisheries harbours centres there is a note about significant delays in the preparation of the auditable accounts, the billing of harbour dues and of rental income and the effectiveness of debt collection.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Fine. I thank the Comptroller and Auditor General. We note that. The next item on our agenda is the work programme. We have discussed No. 20 on the programme and I will ask the secretariat to come back to us on that matter next week and take account of what we have already mentioned. There is one matter we might want to deal with in private session. It will take two minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are now back in public session and this morning we will examine the 2016 financial statement for Transport Infrastructure Ireland. I welcome Mr. Michael Nolan, chief executive officer, CEO, of Transport Infrastructure Ireland. He is accompanied by Mr. Nigel O'Neill, director of commercial operations, Mr. Michael Kennedy, public private partnership, PPP, procurement and PPP finance...

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I ask Mr. Nolan to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. Nolan. The members who have indicated will be called in the following sequence: Deputy Catherine Murphy with 20 minutes; Deputy David Cullinane with 15 minutes and ten minutes each for Deputies Shane Cassells, Catherine Connolly and Alan Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes but two years were lost. Mr. Nolan cannot just shrug his shoulders because that affects the public.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I know it was a service area but it is a very busy road and in the interests of safety, people need a pull-in point. Road safety was compromised when those rest areas were not in place. I would just make the point that it is fine to be right but in the meantime, people were negatively affected. Is there anything that TII can do to shorten that process? I know the courts are outside its...

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: People are entitled to take a case if they choose to do so. I understand that too but it is unfortunate. Deputy Cullinane is next.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy's time is nearly up.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are tight on time. The Deputy will be able to come back in.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are going to move to the next-----

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Will the Deputy excuse me for a minute? I will allow her to come back in.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will not. Is Mr. Nolan saying that, as part of land acquisition, this goodwill payment of €5,000 an acre, which was generally the figure paid to farmers to allow early access, is not included in the land acquisition costs in the TII's accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Nolan told us it was paid through the local authority. Does the TII not pay for that?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes, so that goodwill payment is included in the TII's accounts. Of course it is.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I ask Deputy Connolly to bear with me on this. For some of the projects the TII is the contracting body, not the local authorities.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: In those situations, would the local authority have been involved in a land acquisition if the TII is the contracting body? The local authorities are the contracting bodies for some motorway projects.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Almost 99% of land acquisition was done through the CPO process.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: When Mr. Nolan is looking at the figure, did people whose land was not acquired get any of these goodwill payments? Would the goodwill payment have been part of the overall negotiation of the figure for land acquisition? It included co-operation for early entry, so it was part of the land acquisition.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: It would have been based on acreage or whatever.

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