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Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are coming back to that in our work programme. Perhaps we can move on, Deputy, because we intend to dedicate far more time to that topic. I will give one minute each to Deputies MacSharry and McDonald.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Be careful.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will let you consider that.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. McEnery has one minute to respond. A vote has been called and he has an aeroplane to catch. This is the final response.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I am bringing this part of the meeting to a close. I thank the witnesses from HIQA for attending at such short notice and for their responses. We will suspend until 2.30 p.m., when we can commence our business with Tusla. I apologise to the representatives from Tusla for the late start.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I apologise for the late start. We had expected to meet with the witnesses this morning. I am sorry that we had to defer because of other business and, subsequently, voting in the Dáil went on for over two hours, which delayed us further. We appreciate the witnesses taking the time and having the patience to wait with us. From Tusla, the Child and Family Agency, I welcome Mr. Fred...

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. McCarthy. I now ask Mr. McBride to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. McBride.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are running out of time, Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Deputy MacSharry is next.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Page 37.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is outsourced.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy has used seven minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Who published that document?

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I wish to put a few questions to Mr. McBride based on the documentation presented to us, for which I thank the witnesses. Tusla has 112 family resource centres around the country. It might send us a map of those. I have a feeling that they sprung up wherever people felt like they should spring up and that there are areas with significant needs that have no centres. Counties could be...

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: People might be aware of an issue. Staff in family resource centres are employed by private companies.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Generally, though, the staff are-----

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: When some staff pursue matters of their pay and terms and conditions, they try to bring Tusla before the Workplace Relations Commission, but Tusla is steadfast about not doing so. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I wish to go through page 2 of the financial performance summary. It deals with pay and staff numbers. The table on page 2 shows that, from 2015 to 2016, there was an increase of 136 whole-time equivalent staff. This is contained in Tusla document No. 817A.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes. Between December 2015 and the end of December 2016, there was an increase of 136 whole-time equivalent staff, but Tusla only had an additional 18 in 2017. Why has it ground to a halt? I will read on to complete the question. The final paragraph in that section below the table reads:Currently, Tusla's Human Resources recruitment function is progressing 304 posts that are at varying...

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