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Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: As was done before.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Questions and answers through the Chair.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Through the Chair.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Put the question.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Accounting Officer is the Secretary General of the Department of Health.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. O'Brien should answer.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will ask one question on that point before calling on Deputy Murphy. Mr. O'Brien stated in his final summary that he remains of the view that the evidence in this report shows that the service provider was treated fairly in comparison with other service providers in the period under review. Did Deloitte examine the funding to other service providers?

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I have seen that Deloitte's brief was to examine the funding for this particular organisation. It was not commissioned to examine the funding of other organisations. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Deloitte would not have been able to make a comparison as to whether the organisation was treated fairly or unfairly in respect of other organisations, because they were not asked to examine the funding of other organisations. Mr. O'Brien, however, has come to the conclusion that the provider was treated fairly in comparison with other similar service providers. Deloitte, however, did not...

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We note the requests.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: No. Deputy Connolly is next. In fairness, another speaker has indicated. There will be time for Deputy Cullinane to ask a second question.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Connolly and Deputy Cullinane can comment after she speaks.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Sorry. I know the Deputy is talking about one meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes. As it is a High Court issue, Mr. O'Brien wants to be clear and I am also a little bit confused.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I urge Mr. O'Brien to deal with the question.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The service provider.

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