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- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: I welcome Mr. O'Brien and his colleague. In the opening statement supplied to the committee, Mr. O'Brien included an important paragraph that is a response he read into the record of this committee that came from Deloitte. It is:It was not in our TOR to conclude as to whether the shortfall in the funding for Grace was effectively an additional cut in funding to the body or deliberately done...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Whether the organisation was treated fairly or unfairly in terms of funding is something the commission of investigation of investigation will examine as part of its work.
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: There is a cover letter dated 26 September 2017 in which Mr. O'Brien wrote to the clerk to the committee and attached a copy of the report. He states: "Consequently, the Service Provider was not treated either unfairly or disproportionately when compared to other similarly funded organisations." That is Mr. O'Brien's opinion and it is not the opinion of Deloitte. How can Mr. O'Brien...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: With respect, that is slightly disingenuous as the letter penned by Mr. O'Brien to this committee was accompanied by the Deloitte report. The context of the letter sets out what is in the Deloitte report. It mentions section 6.4 and comparative analysis etc. It is a reference to the Deloitte report. On the back of that, Mr. O'Brien gives his opinion that the service provider was not...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: That is not the point I am making at all and Mr. O'Brien knows it. My point is Deloitte has not passed any comment on whether the service provider was treated fairly or unfairly. With respect, Mr. O'Brien is pre-empting the work of the commission by being very clear in his view that the provider was not treated fairly. I want to get to another question.
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: No. Mr. O'Brien told this committee that the view would be formed on the basis of the Deloitte report, and it now seems that question was not within its terms of reference. There is still an ongoing investigation. There is the key matter of the draft report that we have not seen. The whistleblowers wrote to this committee and have concerns that elements in the draft report did not make...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: I will make a final comment. I understand we only have an hour and it is almost impossible to get to the bottom of this in five minutes. There are so many questions to ask.
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: They will but I have a final point. The difficulty is this. Mr. O'Brien comes before us as the Accounting Officer. Mr. O'Brien's statement that he did not have sight of the draft does not cut it for me because his organisation did. The process here is that the report was commissioned by the HSE. It was at the behest of Mr. Tony O'Brien, as he said. The terms of reference were set by the...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: If there was correspondence or communication between Deloitte and the HSE, what staff members were engaging in it, and at what level? There was engagement between the HSE and the author of the report. While it is up to Deloitte to give us a copy of the draft, the HSE could provide us with copies of emails and correspondence that went over and back so we could then determine ourselves...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Can I ask a supplementary question?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Yes.
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: I will ask a number of quick questions because we are under time pressure. My first point is more for the Chairman, after which I will get to Mr. O'Brien. It is unacceptable for an Accounting Officer who appears before the Committee of Public Accounts, having been invited specifically to respond to queries and concerns raised by us and others regarding an earlier draft of a report, to say...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Was Ms Colley one of those in the organisation who had sight of the drafts?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Not all. Mr. O'Brien did not.
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Was Ms Colley one of the HSE representatives who engaged with Deloitte and had sight of the drafts that are being referenced?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Can Ms Colley answer my question, seeing as how Mr. O'Brien is unable to? The whistleblowers and service providers are saying that the HSE insisted that table 3.3 be removed. Did Ms Colley or any of her colleagues in any correspondence or exchange with the author of the report insist or ask that the table be removed?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Mr. O'Brien stated that, consequent to the Deloitte report, "the Service Provider was not treated either unfairly or disproportionately when compared to other similarly funded organisations." He compared it to other similarly funded organisations. However, Deloitte did not examine the funding of other organisations. Mr. O'Brien has acknowledged that €600,000 had to be paid...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: I accept that, but I am not talking about the settlement. I am talking about the amount of money. An amount of €600,000 was retrospectively paid to this organisation. How many other organisations of that scale and providing similar services received a figure anywhere near €600,000?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Surely Mr. O'Brien would know as the Accounting Officer. With respect, surely he would have some idea. Is there even one?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Mr. O'Brien does not know at this point in time.