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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 12 - Management of Ancillary Services at the Garda Training College
(23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Deputies should know that there are three speakers, Deputies MacSharry, Murphy and Kelly and there is 30 minutes left. They each have ten minutes and the witnesses must leave then.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 12 - Management of Ancillary Services at the Garda Training College
(23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Give them a chance.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 12 - Management of Ancillary Services at the Garda Training College
(23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: How many years?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 12 - Management of Ancillary Services at the Garda Training College
(23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We must move on.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 12 - Management of Ancillary Services at the Garda Training College
(23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are up against the clock.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 12 - Management of Ancillary Services at the Garda Training College
(23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: There is a policing committee meeting at 2 p.m. and the Garda Síochána representatives must leave at 1 p.m. We have ten minutes for the two Deputies.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 12 - Management of Ancillary Services at the Garda Training College
(23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: That will conclude-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 12 - Management of Ancillary Services at the Garda Training College
(23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: At this stage-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 12 - Management of Ancillary Services at the Garda Training College
(23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I know. However, aside from the vótáil, the acting Commissioner has to go to a Policing Authority meeting. Therefore, on behalf of the committee I thank the gardaí and all the members of the force who were here today as well as those from the OPW and the Department of Justice and Equality. We will dispose of that chapter. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are resuming in public session with the business of the committee. This morning we dealt with the reopening of Garda stations and Chapter 12 of the Comptroller and Auditor General's report dealing with the management of ancillary services at the Garda College in Templemore. We also had a discussion about the unit established by the Garda to deal with the Charleton tribunal. We will...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is carried over from the last time. It is No. 890B and it was on last week's list. There is a lot of good information in it. No. 914B, dated 13 November 2017, is from Dr. Graham Love, chief executive officer of the Higher Education Authority, HEA, on the HEA review of Waterford Institute of Technology. The correspondence states that the deadline for the review has been extended to 15...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Absolutely. Hopefully, we will have that report early in 2018. The next item of correspondence is No. 933B, dated 16 November 2017, from Mr. Robert Watt, Secretary General of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, and provides information on the transfer of assets of dissolved companies to the State. The correspondence sets out in detail the legal situation and complexities....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Was that education and training boards?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: There is an extensive list.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: No, we have received nothing from the Department of Education and Skills since the meeting last week. We will follow up closely on that to ensure we get answers to all our questions. The next item is No. 935B from the Secretary General of the Department of Health, providing an information note on the working group established by the Minister to investigate the relationship between the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: As Senator Cullinane suggested, we might send a note back to Graham Love asking him to consider the point about there being no specific guidelines in relation to expenditure for retirement events. I will ask him to consider that matter before he gives us a full response because there is a gap there.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: No, the point is well taken. We will come back to it when we are drafting the report. The PAC cannot implement sanctions against organisations but we can ensure they have proper arrangements in place.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Okay. Deputy Cullinane is quite right. As part of the process when we produce the next report, which we will come to shortly, we will ask the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to specifically address that question. We will include that in our next report which we will discuss shortly as part of our work programme. The point Deputy Cullinane raised is quite correct. We now move...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes. He is a prison officer. The case has come before us a couple of times.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is the Midlands Prison in Portlaoise. We will follow that up. The next item is No. 913C, correspondence dated 15 November 2017, from Deputy Josepha Madigan, Chair to the Committee on Budgetary Oversight, regarding the Coffey report into corporation tax. We will note that. We have our job to do. The next item is No. 915C dated 13 November 2017 from an individual following up on...

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