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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I agree with the Chairman. I welcomed the letter and did so at the launch of the report. I welcome the clarification on the period 2005 to 2019. I urge members to read the documentation to have accurate information when there is talk of a surge in the numbers. There has not been a surge, as the graph illustrates. There is not much difference between numbers in the period from 2005 until...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I welcome this. I do not know how it ever included barring orders on an indicative list. Certainly if it has learned that much it is to be welcome. I welcome that barring orders have been removed. In the letter Ms Hanney states, "I wish to clarify that barring orders and decisions of the Family Law Courts are neither specifically requested nor required by SUSI". The letter then makes the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I understand SUSI has to make a decision based on facts. The letter assures us that SUSI deals with the matters sensitively and that it complies with the legislation.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The decree does not belong to the child who is now a student.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Leaving the barring order out of it-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: It belongs to the two parties. I am not sure how a child who is now a student could be asked to get information on anything like a barring order. The basic application form requires income information from both parents, who are not the applicant. The essence of the entire process is finding out information in respect of the income of the parents but it went a step too far in asking for...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: There has to be a means of verification-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: -----but not producing copies of documents that children should not have in the first place.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Those children being adult students now.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: We are not sure what issue would lead to SUSI resorting to asking for a copy of a barring order. What was the issue?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I know that but-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I meant that where the problem is identified what are the other ways-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I do not agree with Deputy MacSharry's comments on the private sector. If it was subjected to the same scrutiny, it would be very interesting. Unfortunately, it is not. In addition, the public purse has repeatedly picked up the mistakes of the private sector at great cost and with great implications for housing and health and many other things.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Maybe Deputy MacSharry can come back in afterwards. I would like to keep my train of thought. I cannot let comments like that go about the private sector, nor the demonisation of the-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I have seen big companies hide lots of stuff in previous lives. I have had the privilege of being in different roles and have seen many mistakes hidden, quiet pay-offs made and all sorts of other things.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The Deputy should let me preface my comments before I take a critical position on this matter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: We need a vibrant and effective public service. I will stand behind the public service. I will not stand behind its mistakes but I will not have it demonised in the guise of praising the private sector.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I will be the first to apologise if there is a misrepresentation but what I heard being said was that in the world of the private sector this would not have happened.

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