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Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Amendment No. 10 has been tabled by Deputies Ó Caoláin and Troy and I ask Deputy Ó Caoláin to move the amendment.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Amendment No. 3 in the name of Deputy Robert Troy has been ruled out of order as it involves a potential charge on the Exchequer.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Can we stick to the Bill, please?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I must interrupt the Deputy. We are not going to have another Second Stage debate.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I am sorry, Deputy, but in the interests of balance and fairness, we should not make remarks about people who are not here

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Chair is fair and balanced, as the Deputy knows. I want to protect people who are not here, as well as those who are present. We are here to discuss the Bill, not the issue the Deputy has raised.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I am sorry, Deputy, but I must interject again. I am disappointed that we are starting on an adversarial footing. This meeting is not about the person to whom the Deputy refers but about a Bill.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy is straying beyond the scope of the meeting.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy is now straying.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Thank you, Deputy. Before calling Deputy Robert Troy, I remind all members that we are dealing with Committee Stage of the Child and Family Agency Bill. We will deal with the Bill amendment by amendment and not with generalities. We are here to deal with specific amendments to the Bill and I hope we can stick to them. I call on Deputy Robert Troy to make his opening remarks, as all...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We had a discussion on that issue before the Deputy arrived.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I remind members that a grouping list of amendments was circulated in advance of the meeting. Each member should have a copy of the list.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Is it agreed to adjourn at 8 p.m., if we have not finished by then? Agreed. The only item on our agenda is Committee Stage of the Child and Family Agency Bill 2013. I welcome the Minister and all of her officials. I thank them for the considerable work they have put into the organisation and preparation of the Bill which is appreciated. I invite the Minister to make some brief opening...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Update on Health Issues: Discussion (17 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I remind members that the next quarterly meeting is on 12 December 2013.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Update on Health Issues: Discussion (17 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: All of us would accept that it should not take a week for the emergency medical card to be issued. Could the Minister or Mr. O'Brien respond?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Update on Health Issues: Discussion (17 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I conclude by again thanking the members, members of the HSE, the Minister, the Ministers of State and staff from the Department of Health. It has been a very worthwhile exercise. It is important that we recognise that the health care system is about the patient and those who need access to medical care regardless of who they are or where they are from. We should also acknowledge the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Update on Health Issues: Discussion (17 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I am conscious the Minister must to go the Dáil.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Update on Health Issues: Discussion (17 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: It is about making them humane as well, as opposed to them just being a code.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Update on Health Issues: Discussion (17 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: There are seven speakers: five members of the committee and two non-members. I ask members to be concise in their questions because Deputies Ó Caoláin and Kelleher must speak in the Dáil. If I may, with the permission of the committee, I will ask Deputy Fitzpatrick to speak because he will speak in the Dáil presently.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Update on Health Issues: Discussion (17 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I will let Senator van Turnhout go first, followed by Deputy Fitzpatrick.

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