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Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: I thank Mr. Hodgins. We will come back and allow him further time. My apologies to Deputy Butterly. I skipped across her there.

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: I will bring the Deputy back in because-----

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: No, but I will allow the Deputy to make a comment.

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: I will allow them to hold that thought and they can come back in and answer the question later. Members ask me to run a clock and I am just doing as asked.

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: There will probably be some follow-up questions on that.

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: We will leave that easy question to the AGSI.

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: I thank Mr. Clogher. We will have time for a second round of questions. I have a couple of questions arising from our engagement with the Commissioner last week. First, I am seeking clarity in respect of high-speed chases and the pursuit of vehicles. Members of the Garda have privately told me there is an issue within the Garda with pursuits of vehicles, whether it relates to bikes, cars,...

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: Unless witnesses have anything to either contradict or add substantially to that, we will have a new member in. Apologies, Mr. Bolger.

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: That is incredibly worrying. We are on a clock so Deputy Ward has eight minutes.

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: Mr. Bolger wants to add to that point.

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: I thank Deputy O'Sullivan. He could substitute Cork out of his question for virtually anywhere else in the country.

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: Absolutely.

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: As some members have not come in yet, I suggest that we have a three-minute second round for those who want it. I will take members in the original order.

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: Deputy-----

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: I thank Mr. Clogher for that contribution. Before we let the witnesses go, I would like to ask a few questions. Mr. Clogher mentioned that the person who imposes a suspension on a member should not be reviewing that suspension. Will he clarify what he was referring to?

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: To follow up on something, I am concerned around some of the experiences outlined, particularly regarding major events where community gardaĆ­ are taken out of circulation. Have there been conversations between Garda management and either association about Ireland's holding of the EU Presidency next year for six months? We know this will involve a number of high-profile events. Has...

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: Is that the members or the organisation?

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: What does that mean in real terms for operation of events if Mr. Slevin's organisation is not engaging? Will that have an operational impact if its members are requested or instructed to be in certain places at certain times during the Presidency?

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: Is there potential that there would be some form or action?

Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jun 2025)

Matt Carthy: My final question is in respect of the divisional and operational model. Everybody is agreed that the divisional model, particularly the three county structure, is nonsensical. The Commissioner last week did not appear dyed in the wool in the about it, or at least seemed open to the prospect that it might change. I would urge that this would happen quickly. On the operational model...

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