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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Provided the farmer has a licence. These are things we need to put into a report if we are going to try to change things. All databases and equipment should be a joined-up measure between the Department of justice and the Department of agriculture and the whole lot should be together in the event of dogs doing harm. Is there anything else that should be included in that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Will Mr. Bourke send his submission to us?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I ask Mr. Fitzgerald to send in his submission. Mr. Bourke may make whatever other points he wishes to make.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Did the Cathaoirleach take note that Senator Daly seconded a proposal that we do on a report on this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I have one other question and I know-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I have one issue that I wish to be clear on. There is some agreement with farm organisations that people can walk hills. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Are there some walking trails for which agreements have been done already?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: There is permissive access around the country.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: We want to watch that we do not cut off our nose to spite our face. Are there any dogs on the lands that have to be on a lead? Mr. Bourke said no dogs should be on a mountain.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Just to be clear, is Mr. Bourke saying all dogs should be on leads?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: No dogs on mountains. Do all the farmer organisations agree with that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: It is just so we know.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Dog Control and Sheep-Worrying: Discussion (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I am not going to take up any more time because I want to let other members speak. There are all the points put down that the witnesses have agreed on and after that we will talk as a committee. We are not going to be making the law. There is no point codding the witnesses. We can put report together as a committee and give it to the Department. The Cathaoirleach will hand in the report...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: The witnesses probably recognise as well that the regulator has stated that it does not have enough teeth or enough power. Would that be fair to say?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I have heard Joe Healy say that he would like more powers. Is that recognised by the Department?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Is Ms Dunne saying that, for the regulator, the Minister can put in more regulations and is the Minister looking at that to help it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: While what we are on about is in relation to European legislation, when a company is outside, say in Brazil or another country that sends beef to us, do they come under this in any way or are they totally separate once they are outside the EU?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: What if it is vice versa?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Has there been any case opened on that yet?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (2 Jul 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: At the moment, where they would bite the hand off you for cattle or sheep because they are stuck for them, producer organisations do not really hold sway. Is it a requirement for factories to deal with producer organisations under any of the legislation? More paperwork for a farmer was mentioned. Under this COM proposal, will a farmer have to have a contract with someone or is that up in...

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