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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Does the committee want to look at some of that before next Thursday?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will hold it over to next Thursday. I personally did not look at the 400 pages.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will not open up any new lines of inquiry as the commission is already in existence, whatever about looking at issues that have been discussed previously. Correspondence item No. 990 is from the Carlow-Kilkenny ETB with the information requested at the meeting on 16 November 2017 concerning key performance indicators and monies allocated to moneys invested in Coláiste Aindriú and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes. I propose to put this on the public record and read out the total from each of the companies. This information would be publishable under freedom of information, FOI, if any journalist in Ireland made such a request. With all due respect to what the HEA is saying, we will revisit this issue. I have seen State Claims Agency-published lists of everybody it employs and the fees paid,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: No, that is something the Committee of Public Accounts will not get into. Our sole role concerns mechanisms to get the €13 billion lodged. It appears that this will happen. Because it covered a number of years, I think they are dealing with each year and there will probably be a separate lodgement. It is not a question of one big lodgement for the entire period. They will probably...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is currently €2 billion in the statements.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have found that these cases go so far but it may be different if there was more up-front candour by the HSE management and the senior medics involved if something happens. When, however, the management deny, deny, deny they get people's backs up who will then go to the ends of the earth. These people may have accepted the truth up front if they had got the truth up front. In my...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: The committee will write separately to the HSE and to the State Claims Agency to ask for a detailed report on the issue. We will forward the transcript of this discussion relating to what we are asking for, and we will also ask about open disclosure, as the Deputies have requested. I remember the HSE telling the committee some years ago that it had this new policy and that the State Claims...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Right. Normally we would bring in the NTMA when it publishes its financial statements mid year. Normally they are fairly prompt.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: If we brought them in now we would be dealing with 2016 figures.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will include that on our work programme and we will set a time that will be most beneficial to have them in. We will certainly want the NTMA to come in on that. The next correspondence is No. 997B. Councillor Fiona McLoughlin Healy from Kildare wrote to the committee regarding an extension to St. Conleth's College, Newbridge. The concerns raised by the councillor were discussed by the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have no idea.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Members can make separate inquiries on the matter. No. 1006C is correspondence from the Irish Environmental Forum forwarded to the committee by Deputy Connolly. The forum is complaining that the Environmental Protection Agency is wasting public money. Does Deputy Connolly wish to elaborate?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: I propose that we write to the Environmental Protection Agency for a response on it. No. 1007C relates to an individual who has been in communication with me regarding a social welfare appeal. The matter appears to be with the Office of the Ombudsman. I propose that we note the correspondence and allow the Ombudsman's' office to complete its work. Is that agreed? Agreed. No. 1009C...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is correct, Deputy. Some bodies make the other point. One or two made the point that they have done their job and their information is with their parent Departments, so they should not be blamed if they are not published. It is a valid point but we will look at it in the round. No. 1010C relates to a report entitled JobPath Exposed. Deputy Cullinane has asked that this report be...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will see whether the two emails match up. No. 1013C is correspondence from Mr. Andrew Deeks, President of UCD, in response to our letter on non-compliant procurement expenditure. The correspondence seems to suggest that the Office of Government Procurement, OGP, is facing some difficulties in supporting the college in respect of this. I propose that we write to the OGP for a response...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is correct. No. 1017 has been dealt with. It was part of several different items from one individual. That concludes all the correspondence received to date. We will deal with the report in private session. That will not take too long because it is only a question of checking the text as we effectively signed it off before Christmas. We will try to deal with the reports,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is in there.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Next is Mayo, Sligo and Leitrim ETB's 2014 and 2015 accounts, in respect of which there was a qualified audit opinion for both periods audited on the basis that the board did not keep adequate accounting records. In particular, the accounting records maintained were not sufficient to facilitate the preparation of financial statements in a timely manner and in the form required or to enable...

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