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Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Message to Dáil (12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: In accordance with Standing Order 87, the following message will be sent to the Dáil: The Select Sub-Committee on Health has completed its consideration of the following Supplementary Estimate for public services for the year ending 31 December 2013: Vote 39 - Health Service Executive.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We did ask that the information would be supplied.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Could all of us we deal with the present?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: If Deputies Kelleher, Ó Caoláin or Healy wish to make closing remarks, they have two minutes each in which to do so.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We have strayed into subhead B5 on that matter. Under that subhead, members of the committee are very concerned and disappointed about what happened regarding the section 38 and 39 agencies, about which we have spoken already. In my view the positions of the board members of the Central Remedial Clinical, based on yesterday's proceedings and the remarks made by Deputy Ó Caoláin,...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We all concur with that.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I am not going to pick a fight with the Deputy but I am advised that because the Committee of Public Accounts is dealing with this issue that, under Standing Orders, neither we nor the Minister are allowed to discuss it until the Committee of Public Accounts has concluded its investigation. I cannot ask the Minister to answer that question because, under Standing Orders, the Committee of...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Sorry, Deputy-----

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Under Standing Orders, I am advised that we cannot discuss this matter.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Under Standing Orders, the Deputy cannot discuss that matter.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Sorry, Deputy, I cannot allow that question.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We will move on to subheads B11 and C1.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: It has not. Deputy Ó Caoláin is here a long time and will be aware of that.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Deputy Ó Caoláin. We are moving on to subhead B1. Any comment on subhead B1? Any comment on subhead B2?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: As Deputy Ó Caoláin will be aware, we are not discussing FÁS here. This is the Department of Health and the HSE.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Deputy Ó Caoláin mentioned SOLAS and FÁS. We are not dealing with that in this committee.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Deputy Ó Caoláin. Does the Minister want to reply to that?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Has the Minister anything in terms of subhead B2 in terms of the €11 million that Deputy Ó Caoláin raised?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: In terms of what Deputy Ó Caoláin stated?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(12 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Deputy Ó Caoláin made the point.

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