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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Catherine Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will certainly write to the Cork IT and IT Tralee enclosing this schedule and ask why their figures are so high relative to the others. We want to know which college paid the amount involved, was it paid on a 50:50 basis or by one college? As Deputy Catherine Murphy said, it has had an impact on student services. If more than €571,000 has been spent by two colleges on this...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will write directly to UCC about the agreement and the secretariat has a note of the query. UCC states it is part of a postgraduate degree and a new partnership that will see University College Cork invest in-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: The obvious first question is whether it can demonstrate to the committee the income did not come from taxpayers' money.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Let me tease it out. The majority of funding for most of them is public sources such as the Higher Education Authority. They get some private funding also, but I understand there is one set of accounts with all the money in the one pot and nobody can say all the money did not come from that source.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: One would have said a significant portion of it did, but I cannot understand how it can make that statement. It cannot make that statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: We understand the question. Correspondence No. 1104C is from an individual who was previously a member of An Garda Síochána. The document is dated 20 February 2018 and encloses a review of contracts relating to the provision and operation of safety cameras for An Garda Síochána. The individual provides an analysis of the GoSafe programme, about which he expresses...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: This is a former garda who has a detailed report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: It states in the document the contract was signed by the Minister and the Commissioner, so we need to write to the Department and the Garda Síochána. The person rightly prefaces the whole report by stating this matter was discussed by the Committee of Public Accounts on 10 July 2014, following the earlier report of the Comptroller and Auditor General. This matter came before us a...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes. To remove any mystery about it, the gentleman who has compiled this report has put his name to it. The former member of the Garda Síochána is John O'Brien, and he has some knowledge of this particular area. We will ask for a detailed report from the Garda Síochána and the Department of Justice and Equality to address the issues. Perhaps, as Deputy Kelly has said,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: He has them well listed in the document.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is a good basis to seek information. No. 1106C is correspondence from Deputy Shane Cassells regarding our proposed engagement on the funding of local authorities, which is the main item for today. No. 1108C is correspondence from IBEC.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will note and publish that and No. 1108C. We want to discuss this IBEC letter regarding commercial rates and the funding of local authorities. Correspondence from IBEC is publishable so we will publish the letter. I do not think it wrote to us to keep a secret. We will deal with the issue of funding local authorities during the course of meeting. No. 1109C is correspondence, dated...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: This comes from an acting Secretary General. We are publishing this. The issue of wards of court is a public matter. The one point I would make is that there seems to be a big mystery. These are administered by the judges, and rightly so. We are not trespassing there. They seem to have their own committee overseeing the investment. Perhaps when we come to do our work, such funds might...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: It does because there is less money for them.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will publish that correspondence. We do not need to take any action now but I assure members that the issue of wards of court will come before us again. We might consider asking for the relevant policy matter to be looked at in the context of the management of funds under the supervision of trusteeship or whatever of the judges without interfering with them. The funds might be better...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is not a duplication of their work.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: The letter is gone. I cleared the matter some time ago. There is one last item of correspondence. I wish to explain to the people who are watching that we have a double batch of correspondence to deal with this week due to not having a meeting last week. Nos. 1136, 1137, 1142 and 1143 from Deputies Catherine Murphy, Cullinane, Aylward and MacSharry, respectively, request the committee...

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