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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: The Government does not need the Chairman's vote. I will have to leave soon but on the capital plan, it is a huge budget. What Mr. Woods referred to earlier will be a huge outlay, whatever it will be. I was chancing my arm on that but it will be huge. I am not convinced. We are from the mid-west and we are thinking about Limerick. A total of €3 million is required just for the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Is anybody currently exploring it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: I understand that. That is the reason I suggested it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: On the capital side, regardless of who is in government I do not believe we will have this completed in eight and a half years. We will have to step outside the box, make some recommendations as a committee and examine alternative funding mechanisms to deliver the scale of the budget required, whether through a national bond or some other mechanism, because we cannot wait any longer. This...

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Perhaps Mr. Nugent could consult with all his hospitals and ask for that information and supply it to the committee.

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: The volume per hour is more or less the same. Is that the point?

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Let me break it down. What is the position on the amount of time in the theatre actually undertaking the procedure? Is that different?

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: The difference between public versus private is not because of the quality of the facility or anything like that. Is that correct?

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: I want to narrow it down to what it is.

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: To refer to Deputy Durkan's comments and the information that the total claims are just under €2 billion, with €600 million paid to public hospitals and the balance, more or less, going to private hospitals, clinics etc., I had not intended speaking on this but it creates a discourse which the witnesses will understand is out there. It comes to us as public representatives and...

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Did that working party meet the HSE? Is there someone from the HSE working with the association on that?

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Could the PPS number be the unique identification code?

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: She might -----

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: I asked if the transfer of patients is geographically determined.

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: What I am trying to get at here is obvious. In every area where there are private hospitals, the make-up of the local network of hospitals is different. This committee is discussing that issue separately but what I am trying to find out is why there is a variance in transfers from area to area. Are there other reasons for that, apart from geography?

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: There are probably more issues than that involved.

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Would it be less than 5%?

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Would it be less than 3%?

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is interesting. I ask Mr. Nugent to address my six-mark question.

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: It relates to the future provision of private hospitals. Will there be any more private hospitals developed here?

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