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Public Accounts Committee: 2023 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 2 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Exceptional State Funding of the Peter McVerry Trust
Chapter 12 - Local Infrastructure Housing Activation Fund
Local Government Fund - Account 2023
(19 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: In the normal course of the Peter McVerry Trust running its organisation, it would not require €1.5 million. If it had been doing that from the start, we would not have needed it. I cannot understand why we would need to spend a further €1.5 million to assist the oversight body.

Public Accounts Committee: 2023 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 2 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Exceptional State Funding of the Peter McVerry Trust
Chapter 12 - Local Infrastructure Housing Activation Fund
Local Government Fund - Account 2023
(19 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: As a final comment, while other moneys we have talked about are advancing money that would be used for housing or delivery of services and so on, this is money that is a direct result of the problems that were caused and that is significant.

Public Accounts Committee: 2023 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 2 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Exceptional State Funding of the Peter McVerry Trust
Chapter 12 - Local Infrastructure Housing Activation Fund
Local Government Fund - Account 2023
(19 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: I am just saying this has not been a cost-free exercise in terms of-----

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: Hear, hear.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: I welcome Mr. Gloster, Ms Queally and all the team. It is good to have Mr. Gloster before us in an environment other than a meeting of the Committee of Public Accounts. I am usually asking difficult questions about numbers.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: I am going to ask difficult questions about numbers here, too. As we drill down into the whole area of assessments of need and CDNTs, one thing that struck me was the idea that one third of children could go through the process and not reach the bar for an assessment of need.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: One third of children are coming in to seek a diagnosis of autism where there is no other alternative publicly. One third of the time taken by CDNTs relates to assessments of need rather than the delivery of therapy. I am focused on therapy. To me, that must be the priority. It is where interventions happen. Assessments of need are important and required by law, but my worry is about how...

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: What will the autism protocol look like? At the moment, people are referred to a CDNT, which takes a long time. Their schools are anxiously awaiting some sort of professional assessment and the children are waiting for treatment.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: Perhaps it is unfair of me to ask before the protocol is published, but the bit I am not clear about is how I, as a parent, can get my hands on a professional assessment so that I can approach a school and tell its representatives that my child essentially has a diagnosis.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: Okay.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: The challenge then is determining the difference between an assessment of need and a professional assessment. We then fall into the same space we were in when the court case was taken, that is, a lower version or poorer interpretation of-----

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: When I looked at the judgment, there was not a clear pathway forward as to how the system should respond. That was one of the things I noticed. We must retain the right to assessment of need.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: I do not think there is any-----

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: We must also get to the point whereby we are freeing up hours and recruiting more staff. I want to talk more about recruitment and so on. I know the Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science, Deputy Lawless, has put in place a number of posts, which is welcome. The Minister of State with responsibility for disabilities is a Deputy in my consistency. Mr....

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: I will definitely take Mr. Gloster up on his offer to meet the organisation.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: Dublin City Council has put forward the site but it also wants to be sure it is a realistic project and the council will not be left holding onto the site for a long time for a project that will not happen. The HSE has demonstrated its good faith, but demonstrating it to Dublin City Council and An Saol is important.

Ceisteanna Eile - Other Questions: Health Services (17 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: I agree with the Minister of State that these services are incredibly important. The multidisciplinary nature of the teams provides intensive neuro-rehabilitation at critical times and they assist with acute hospital discharges. Studies have shown that, on average, they save up to three days per patient, but they are also a critical intervention. Any multidisciplinary approach to patients...

Ceisteanna Eile - Other Questions: Health Services (17 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: I encourage the Minister of State to engage with the Neurological Alliance of Ireland. It is a strong organisation. I know the Minister of State has met its representatives. Tomorrow she will visit my constituency and a member organisation of the Neurological Alliance of Ireland, An Síol, which deals with longer term treatments. It is keen to get a permanent home. It has identified...

Ceisteanna Eile - Other Questions: Health Services (17 Jun 2025)

Paul McAuliffe: 83. To ask the Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth for plans and an indicative timeline of implementation for a community neuro-rehabilitation team for the treatment of neurological patients in north Dublin, as committed to in the programme for Government; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [32453/25]

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