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Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: The Chairman does not have to race up to the Chamber.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: Let us deal with another amendment or two and then we can see how we are going.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: Does that mean amendments Nos. 18 to 20, inclusive, are not moved?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: I shall follow up on what Deputy Ó Caoláin has said and explain the rationale behind my amendment. The matter was brought to my attention by a Children's Rights Alliance submission, which stated the following: A 2011 report on children's rights commissioned by the Ombudsman for Children, analysing ten cases which came before the Office, found that "the individual children appeared...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: Yes. I have explained the rationale for my amendment and I look forward to what the Minister has to say.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: It is imperative that organisations consult when planning and reviewing the provisions of services. Let us remember how we debated and discussed, in recent times, a review of our legislative processes and brought about a change in how we do our business here. For new legislation, the idea is that we consult with a much wider range of people whom it will affect. It is good enough for us to...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: I thank the committee for facilitating me.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: I think the section should be more explicit in ensuring it does not relate purely to proceedings before a court. It must be recognised in the Bill that the agency will be working with children and families in a wide range of settings under the legal framework of the Child Care Act 1991. In that context, the wording in our amendment, "whether in proceedings before a court or otherwise",...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: It is welcome that the best interest principle is explicitly included in the Bill, rightly so, considering that we went through the children's rights referendum 12 months ago and it will be explicitly inserted into the Constitution. As Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin said, the hard work has been done. The Minister and Deputy Ó Caoláin were on the all-party Oireachtas...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: Am I right in thinking there are still areas that directly affect the well-being of children and families that do not come under this agency's remit, including childhood and adolescent services and public health nurses?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: The Minister said she does not want to take the word to include intra-agency. Maybe I misheard her.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: I believe that is normally the way.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: Having examined the matter at length, I was of the opinion that including the word "facilitate" would provide a stronger meaning. The Minister correctly condemned previous Administrations for the lack of inter-agency co-operation in this sector. It is extremely important for us to ensure, by means of the legislation, that there will be strong inter-agency co-operation. Successive reports...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: With respect, I am not asking that the word "promote" be replaced with "facilitate". I am asking that both be included in order that the provision might have a broader effect. The Minister is correct in that this matter has not been dealt with in legislation heretofore and I compliment her on seeking to address it now. However, there is nothing to prevent us from making the legislation...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: I thank the Minister.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: It seems as if we are just going backwards and forwards, agreeing with Deputy Ó Caoláin' s points. I acknowledge the Equal Status Act exists and that it ensures we cannot be discriminatory to any section of society, and that is only right and proper. This legislation would be enhanced, however, if it were clearly and explicitly marked out that the agency in the performance of its...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: I move amendment No. 12: In page 13, subsection (8), line 12, after “shall” to insert “facilitate and”.In other words, the agency shall facilitate and promote enhanced interagency co-operation to ensure that services for children are co-ordinated and provide an integrated response to the needs of children and the families. On Second Stage I pointed out that...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: I seek clarification from the Minister. In her contribution, she mentioned that the proposal made in the amendment might somehow tie the hands of the professionals when dealing with a particular child welfare case or issue. Obviously, there must be some latitude with regard to what interventions and supports are needed, because no two cases or remedies are the same. However, I understand...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: I want to add my voice to what has been said. Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin has outlined the issue quite well. Unfortunately, there have been many inconsistencies in recent years and decades. It is clear from the harrowing reports compiled in that time that inconsistency and a lack of inter-agency co-operation are themes that recur. The Minister has alluded to that on many...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Robert Troy: I have nothing further to add except to reiterate what I have already said. As it is an extremely important amendment I ask the Minister to give it due consideration.

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