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Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: It was just an accident that DIT was the first and was the only one that had paid upfront. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: We are on a clock in here.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: DIT paid upfront. The institute made the decision to pay upfront. Mr. Colm Whelan would have made that decision, I presume.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: The others did not pay upfront.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Did DIT receive the goods? It never received them, as far as I understand.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: What was the time difference between when DIT signed up and found out that the company was folding?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is three months and-----

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: DIT received nothing.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: I know but for the tender in Ireland, DIT was the largest customer.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: What percentage of the pie did DIT represent?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: If we were to write to all of the other institutes of technology and ask them if they had paid up front for their provision, the answer would be "Yes" on the basis of what Professor Norton is saying.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: It is not paid in instalments.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: It cannot be paid in instalments. Is that right? Was that not an option?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: During and prior to 2014, DIT never paid for this or any similar service in instalments. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: I ask that the witnesses would come back to the committee on that question.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Murphy is certain that in relation to this and similar services, payment would have always been made in advance.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: All of the other institutes would have done the same thing. Correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Obviously this is something we will have to check but does Mr. Murphy believe that other institutes may not have been paying upfront?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Just a minute ago Mr. Murphy said that a number of them did but that he was not sure about all of them. What did he mean by that?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology: Financial Statement 2013-2014
Grangegorman Development Agency: Financial Statement 2015
(6 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: We can find out by asking others. Does DIT have franchise agreements with other educational bodies with regard to the awarding of qualifications?

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