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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: The issue of Cavan hospital is not relevant to our meeting today. We will discuss it again.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Deputy Ó Caoláin has returned so I will call him next. Then I will call on Mr. Quinn to respond before calling on other members.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: We will have an opportunity at another forum to deal with the issue of Cavan hospital.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: In fairness to HIQA, the report on the other hospitals is ongoing and is not concluded. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: We have three other speakers to put questions, but we will take a response from Mr. Quinn before coming to them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Was that governance review to involve the HSE or just the hospital?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Why was that the case?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Has Mr. Quinn a view on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Does Mr. Quinn agree that it is regrettable that there was a public exchange between HIQA and the HSE regarding the report, and that it should not really have got to that point?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Given that it has not changed substantially, in Mr. Quinn's opinion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: It looks bad to have two State bodies engaged in a type of discourse, or whatever one wants to call it, that reflects badly on the whole process. That is my opinion as Chairman of this committee. I accept Mr. Quinn's point that he did not-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Will Ms Dunnion explain that point, please, in simple terms?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: The report states that two months earlier the assessment had not been given but Mr. Quinn noted in his opening remarks that the hospital did not have a strong safety culture.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: In regard to the 16% figure for complaints, is that why the report did not definitively express confidence in the safety of the hospital?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: In regard to the experience of the families and how they were treated, has that culture and practice changed? Am I correct to say that a new process was put in place automatically?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I acknowledge it is not Mr. Quinn's specific responsibility.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: That was not my question. We accept all of that but I am asking whether the practices and culture which resulted in these families being treated in a certain way have ended.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: There are five other speakers indicating, including two Members who are not on the committee. I will start with Deputy Mitchell O'Connor, then call Senator Colm Burke and Deputies Seamus Healy, Lucinda Creighton and Sean Fleming.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: We will now take questions from non-members of the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: HIQA Investigation into Midland Regional Hospital, Portlaoise: Health Information and Quality Authority (13 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: On the point regarding the State Claims Agency, the committee has concluded a report on medical indemnity. One of proposals in that report relates to the HSE's policy around open disclosure. Deputy Fleming has made a good point. When will we see action and accountability in regard to all of this? If this is not about being patient-centred, and if "Prime Time" had not produced this...

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