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Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: I move amendment No. 62:In page 59, between lines 28 and 29, to insert the following:"33. The Minister shall, within nine months from the passing of this Act, prepare and lay before Dáil Éireann a report the effective rates of corporation tax paid by companies in the State.". This relates to our discussion on public country-by-country reporting. The basis of many of these changes...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: In Sinn Féin's alternative budget we allowed for the differentiation between active and passive investment. That is important, because lumping both together does not make sense. Active investment, where investment is being made to improve the functionality and health of a business, will have outcomes for the State in that it will make the business more competitive and, hopefully, lead...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: I have a brief question. Any tightening of regulations in regard to anti-avoidance is good. Have any cases arisen to date of tax avoidance within this loophole and has the incidence of this being measured?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: Is there a potential cost to the Exchequer as a result of this anti-avoidance measure being weakened and has any revenue been raised from this measure in the past few years?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: I move amendment No. 67:In page 78, between lines 34 and 35, to insert the following:"57.The Minister shall, within one month of the passing of this Act, prepare and lay before Dáil Éireann a report on options available for the introduction of a rate of 3 per cent betting duty for online and in-shop bets to be paid by the customer.". I welcome the decision to bring online betting...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: I move amendment No. 74:In page 81, between lines 19 and 20, to insert the following:“66.The Minister shall, within nine months from the passing of this Act, prepare and lay before Dáil Éireann a report on options available for the introduction of a comprehensive asset tax otherwise known as a wealth tax, the report shall include options for the collation of data necessary...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: We can try to "out-data" each other here all day.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: If one goes to the CSO's household finance and consumption survey report-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: Even if one was to go on the CSO data from the household and finance consumption survey, it indicates that the top 20% of income earners hold 40% of the wealth. That is equivalent to the bottom 20% of the income distribution. Even even on those figures, wealth distribution is grossly lopsided.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: Perhaps I have not made myself clear. The CSO references those in the top 20% of the income distribution having 40% of the wealth. The CSO crosses the two items there. It says that those in the bottom 60% of the income distribution are at the same level of wealth. That is approximately two thirds. The top 20% in the income distribution has three times the wealth of the bottom two thirds....

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: We will not agree on the idea of a wealth tax, but every manager in the State knows that one cannot manage if one cannot measure. If the Government does not collect the information, it cannot manage this issue properly either. It is quite shocking that the Government does not know the wealth of the nation. It does not know the wealth in the hands of the people of the State. That means it...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: Their insurance company will know about it.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: The Minister has jumped from economic management and knowing the facts to holding files on everything about people. That is not what we are discussing.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: No. I was-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: I believe that 95% of the population would.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: There are a suite of assets that could be included.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: For example, all income from savings in excess of €1 million per annum; stocks and shares and all other financial products in public companies; shares in private non-trading companies; and land, buildings and second and subsequent homes. The Minister referenced second and subsequent homes. If the Minister were to abolish the property tax and impose a €400 tax on second homes,...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: This happens in France and Norway.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: I was referring to working land.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Nov 2015)

Peadar Tóibín: Working farmland, livestock and blood stock would be exempted from it.

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