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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is very detailed. Does Mr. Barrett believe that the Commissioner of An Garda Síochána was aware of the issues in Templemore on 2 July or preceding that date?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: You believe the Commissioner knew about the issues in Templemore.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: As Mr. Barrett is aware she gave evidence previously-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Barrett was sitting here when she gave evidence that she was first told in the letter from Mr. Ruane and then at the disputed meeting of 27 July. Is that not correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Absolutely. That is why he is needed here with the other witnesses. For the record, we have a complete contradiction in evidence between that given on 4 May and that given today. Evidence has been given that there was a 2 July meeting at which this steering group was set up. We also have a letter from 30 June which says that the Commissioner had been informed. Obviously, we will have to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: What was that meeting is respect of?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: There is a confirmation. There is the letter of 30 June and there is confirmation of the meeting of 2 July. I thank Mr. Ruane. When he became aware of these issues after Mr. Barrett informed him, what did Mr. Ruane feel he had to do? In fairness to Deputy MacSharry, he has asked this question. Obviously the law is above any reporting structure.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: In other words, Mr. Ruane felt obliged to inform the Commissioner - though I am not asking what advice he gave - of her responsibilities, particularly under the Garda Síochána Act 2005, I presume.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Ruane thought the issues were so serious and worrying that he felt it absolutely necessary to advise the Commissioner of her responsibilities under the Act and that it was necessary for her to act.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Of course.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: I thank Mr. Ruane for that. I know he is trying to distinguish between advice and what he felt. I will read out section 41(1) of the Garda Síochána Act 2005: "The Garda Commissioner shall keep the Minister and the Secretary General of the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform fully informed", and the Act then lists off everything including issues of accountability and...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: I respect that. Fennelly's interim report happened in the middle of this process. Mr. Justice Fennelly particularly addressed the way in which evidence should be documented and preserved.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: This was all live and happening at the same time. I have one other question for Mr. Ruane before I move on. Distinct from his legal advice, does he feel that the issues that were being revealed and confided to him, as he stated, by Mr. Barrett were of such serious consequence to An Garda Síochána that, if not acted upon immediately, they would be to the detriment of the Garda...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: I want Mr. Ruane's opinion.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is very clear. I thank Mr. Ruane.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: I will go three or four times.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: I understand. Mr. Ruane has been very helpful. I am stuck for time but will come in again with many other questions. Very briefly, will Mr. Barrett talk us through his meeting with Mr. Dunne? Was it in September 2015?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Does Mr. Barrett feel that Mr. Dunne reacted?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Of course, but I want Mr. Barrett's opinion.