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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: Okay. The Minister might just tell us the timescale and timeframe in that regard because it is related to this Bill. In terms of commencement, I do wish to talk about this a bit more, although I might leave the discussion until we are dealing with other amendments. In respect of Deputy Bacik's amendments here, the Minister asked about large-scale projects, such as MetroLink, for example....

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: I am sure the Minister will be aware that something like MetroLink would be covered under section 164(3)(b) because a project of that kind would surely be a Chapter 4 application or development. In terms of Deputy Bacik's amendments, therefore, they do not interfere with those sorts of large-scale projects. Turning to section 164(3)(a), it does not specify. I refer to where it is...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: The Minister mentioned it first.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: To clarify, Deputy Bacik's amendments do not seek to amend section 164(3)(a) or (b).

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: I mentioned subsection (3)(a) and (b). However, on the Minister's arguments about MetroLink and so forth, Deputy Bacik's amendments would not affect an application such as this because she does not seek to amend subsection (3)(a) or (b).

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: Metrolink would surely be a subsection (3)(b) Chapter 4 development?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: In any event, in such a development, Deputy Bacik's amendments would be covered under subsection (3)(a) but she is not seeking to amend subsection (3)(a). That is the point that was made.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: Absolutely.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: I was trying to be helpful to the Minister.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: That is what you get for trying to be helpful. On section 164(3)(a), apart from the wording there, is there anything else that specifies anything around that? I appreciate it is not a new provision. Is there anything else in the legislation or anything outside of the legislation around that at all? For example, in larger housing developments, from what the Minister knows, is that clause...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: This would be for the likes of large SDZ or something like that.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: It is that type of development I am talking about.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: Finally on this, a large application like that which a planning authority may give a ten-year permission for would obviously have a phasing plan. Within that phasing plan, it would be stipulated that 400 homes would be completed within the first two years and some infrastructure by the third year. Therefore, while it might be for a large application of ten years, effectively there are...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: I cannot see how that would arise.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: Yes, grand. To follow on from the point made by Deputy Bacik, has any analysis been done in terms of durations of permissions in respect of a large-scale housing development, for example, of how long it normally takes to build out after getting planning permission? If we are talking about 500 units or 1,000 units, how much time is required in this regard, if we consider the time needed to...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: I will make that point and then move on to the commencements issue rather than prolong this discussion. In respect of section 164(3)(a), the Minister and I had a good discussion on where that section might be used, and the kind of practice around that, but the issue I raised is that none of that is specified in the Bill. I appreciate it is not a new provision but the Bill would be stronger...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: My point is that in effect there are no criteria under section 164 for-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: The provision "shall have regard to the nature and extent of the proposed development" is very wide.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: How could authorities make a decision and not have regard to the nature and extent of the proposed development? However, we are talking about time limits.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: It does not necessarily need to be made by the applicant because section 164(3)(a) states, "where requested by the applicant under subsection (2) or at its own discretion". It is not that the applicant has to put out before the-----

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