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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: On what date was the letter?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: So, 2 October. Does the Commissioner see what I am getting at? The Commissioner acted promptly but, according to Ms Barry's evidence and the Department, which will be before us next, there was no communication at all with the Department between 27 July and 1 October at the very earliest, and even then only informally.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: The Department will be before us next. I will make two points. First, Mr. Nugent must revert to us about 4 May and the Standards in Public Office Commission, SIPO. I would appreciate that. Second, the Commissioner-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Fine.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: I understand that. As legislators, we understand SIPO legislation.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: If people replied to Mr. Nugent and stated they had adhered to the legislation, that would be fine. However, the issue is that the request was made on 4 May. We are trying to determine something in straight language. The people who made returns to SIPO did not do so as a result of their being raised by this committee or, in other words, from 4 May until now.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: I understand Mr. Nugent's point.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: In simple language, this is the same exercise that Mr. Nugent did backdated to 4 May, which was when the request was made.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: The final issue-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Yes, but the fact is no one communicated that to the Department until 1 October, and that was orally.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: It is not that. This is the evidence of Ms Barry and the Department, which is consistent with the evidence that has been given previously. There is a gap of approximately two and a half months during which the Department did not know the committee existed, but the Commissioner acted promptly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: This is one of the most serious issues the Commissioner will have dealt with.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: The Department is the parent of the Commissioner's organisation.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: The committee met, but it did so without the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: There was a Garda communiqué. It is a book that was produced by the Garda. I will not share it, but there is a chapter called "Internal Audit". This is from 2001 and was written by a superintendent. I will not say his name. It gives a full six-page description of how internal audit works in An Garda Síochána. In fairness, I will ask the Commissioner to try to dig this...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Do you have a final question Deputy Murphy?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: We have said that before. Does the Chairman wish to comment?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: That point was well made. As the sole witness along with her colleagues, I would like to thank the Commissioner and her colleagues for the information supplied today and also over the last number of weeks. There is still some information outstanding. When all of this is received and discussed the committee intends to report on issues pertaining to the financial procedures in Templemore....

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: I know, I can see it written across the Commissioner's face.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: I thank the Commissioner again for her time today. It has been a long day. We will now suspend for a few minutes while the witness and her colleagues leave. With the agreement of the committee I will ask the Chairman to resume his rightful position for the second session.