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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I do not think it was agreed to publish, if I am correct.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I will allow the Deputy one or two questions but quickly.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: We may come back to it. The Deputy is well over time. I will remind the Deputy that the format for today was agreed by the committee in private session. It was agreed that, rather than inviting many individual workers to come along, the representative bodies and unions would be the ones invited. I will, however, allow time for people to respond later. The next set of questions are from...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: While Mr. Byrne and Ms O'Kelly were signalling on that it is up to Deputy Munster to-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I will leave that comment with you. I thank Senator Sherlock. Senator Carrigy, who is substituting for Deputy Cannon, is next.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I am conscious that the meeting has been going on for nearly two hours. Would the witnesses like to take a five-minute comfort break? They are indicating they are happy to proceed. That is fine. The next speaker is Senator Cassells.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I thank Ms Hannick very much. I call Mr. Byrne.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I am very conscious that everyone has a right to a fair process

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I want us to focus on some of the evidence. Where there are allegations of criminal wrongdoing-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: The views the Deputy is expressing are his own and not those of the committee.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: Well-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I appreciate the Deputy is making an allegation-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: There is a process that needs to be gone through. I ask the Deputy to be careful in his questioning. He is aware of it.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: Does the Deputy have a final question?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: Okay. I thank Deputy McGrath. It falls to me to contribute, but I will allow the two non-members of the committee to make brief interventions. I call Senator Clonan and then Deputy Boyd Barrett.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I know our witnesses have been here for quite a while and I thank for that. There can always be criticism of any organisation. On the policy side, I have always found the trade unions to be very generous with their time and information. To come back to the point made by Deputy Boyd Barrett, if ire is to be directed at those who originally signed up, then the bulk of that ire needs to be...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I want to respond to a point mentioned by Ms Hannick in respect of Equity being part of SIPTU. We are talking here about the future and we have talked a bit about the impact of artificial intelligence on productions and actors. Members may come in on this issue if they so wish. Obviously Ms Hannick will be aware of the disputes in the US involving the Screen Actors Guild and the Writers...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: Can Ms Hannick envisage a future episode of, say, “Fair City” being written by AI and some of the roles being voiced or, indeed, acted by AI?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I agree because AI can never be a substitute for creativity. On the technical side, obviously technology will work in conjunction with human technical experts. Perhaps our guests would like a comment.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Culture and Governance Issues at RTÉ: Discussion (24 Apr 2024)

Malcolm Byrne: I might ask Ms O'Kelly about this because she specifically and understandably mentioned that politicians are interested in elections. A number of elections will take place in the next 12 months. She mentioned the concern about disinformation. Does she see AI being used within the newsroom, particularly to combat disinformation? How prepared does Ms O'Kelly think the RTÉ newsroom would...

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